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[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It's just research!

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I don't give a damn what kind of porn people watch. I do care that this colors their perspective on how trans people actually live. Most of us aren't sex workers. And most of us that are don't do it by choice. We're just people trying to live our lives. This kind of thinking is incredibly dangerous, as it leads to believing that someone just being themselves in public is an act of sexual exhibitionism. I didn't transition as a sex thing. My life is not a costume. I transitioned and have lived my entire adult life as myself, worked my entire career and built my entire life around my transitioned name and gender. Rather than a 24/7 drag act, most days I'm wearing jeans and hoodie.

We're just trying to live our lives in peace. But a bunch of perverts are using their porn habits to inform their moral judgments about an entire class of people.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

This ties into a bigger issue where almost nothing related to sexuality can ever be healthy or normal to many conservatives.

Sex to these conservatives is inherently deviant and filthy. Making conscious life decisions related to sexuality or sexual identity will never be just a life decision. It will be equivalent to actively engaging in sexual acts.

Being trans to them is actively paedophilic because it exposes children to the concept of sexuality and gender. Sex ed will be paedophilic to them because it does the same. Each person's actions are not the sole thing that defines them, but also their position in society as dictated by "what it has always been". Men have always led households by marrying women and having kids, therefore men that don't are a threat.

Conservatism is quite black or white when it comes to things like identity or introspection. It is an ideology that very frequently wages war on self questioning and exploration in exchange for compliance and conformism. It's why many conservatives hate universities, scientists and partially why they hate immigrants. The entire ideology grows by appealing to people who do not want to be intellectually challenged. It's especially attractive to those that don't want to understand other ways of thinking.

Conservatism as an ideology always exploits the greatest potential weakness of the left wing: naivety, and presents itself as the "responsible" or "reasonable" solution to a reckless and harmful left wing. They frame things like empathy and humanitarianism as weaknesses rather than virtues.

It's why most of the conservative rhetoric revolves around "being taken advantage of" or "being scammed by" this or that group. They love stories about immigrants exploiting the system, cheating or stealing because it proves their worldview that what's foreign and unknown is out to get them. It is an ideology driven by fear.

And the biggest problem is that, unlike progressivism (which also has its ideological vices and weaknesses), conservatism never seeks to help the weak or empower the vulnerable. Instead it seeks to maintain the hierarchy and keep people in their place. In the US that translates to keeping immigrants weak, keeping black people down, keeping women in the kitchen, keeping white men ahead, keeping the US as an imperial power, and keeping its allies subservient.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world -5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

What? What the hell does transporn have to do with, 1. Your personal identity and 2. How everyone else perceives trans people? Porn is fantasy not real life.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Project 2025 literally has as one of its planks the idea that simply living life as a trans person is a pornographic act. This belief comes from men who see being trans and being pornographic as one and the same. Where do you think that belief comes from?

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Not from transporn. That's for sure. These assholes watching transporn is a symptom of what makes people believe in maga, nationalism and project 2025 in the first place. The porn comes after the indoctrination.

Hold on... Hold on. I know. But think about it. If you're some bloke pulling your pud to transporn and liking it you're not going to all of the sudden become a conservative.

But if you're a maga asshole conservative and you're being bombarded by anti trans bullshit and go on the internet, you know... Just to take a look to see what the fuss is all about... Then all of the sudden dang that's hot where's the jergens.

🤷

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Man, you can't just ignore how porn molds the way people see others and what they expect of them, be it men, women or trans people

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean ya... But this can be said about anything at all. How about the 24 hour news cycle... Just constant news all the time screaming in your face. Or flat Earth videos on YouTube... Millions of people believe the earth is flat. Or maga propaganda permeating literally everything nowadays.

We're humans and can be easily influenced.

Furthermore I don't see a mechanism that would support what's being said under the original comment here that would be present in porn to support what you're saying in context.

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

... How can you both understand and not understand at the same time? Are you american?

To sum it up, minorities suffer from the gaze that is cast upon them, especially if this gaze is exploitative, degrading, objectifying and made by and for the pleasure of the oppressor, thus reinforcing the oppressor's bias against the minority.

If trans porn is the only way these men are confronted to the existence of trans people, they'd oversexualize the idea of trans, which in turn leads them to blame/despise the trans even more (because of both their conservative views and unhealthy relationship with sex), not even leaving trans people the space to be something else in their eyes than objects to jerk off to (aka "people").

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

little frankie armistein is topself

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Also explains why all the porn of us calls us slurs. I hate it.

(Seriously, it's so hard finding trans porn that feels like it's for trans people instead of for people that want to dehumanize us)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I think it goes deeper than that, I think that many guys that go for trans porn actually are very into it, probably because it's such a "taboo" subject for them.

It's similar to whenever there is a Republican or conservative convention somewhere, immediately it becomes a Grindr hotspot.

There are boat loads of gay / trans people in those extremist communities, because of course there are, and while publicly they will bash anything LGBT, privately they get off on it

See also that mega extremist church pastor that would constantly bash the gays and then got caught snorting coke from a gay prostitute

Edit:to add to this: I think that most trans porn made is not primarily made for trans people, but for men. Similarly to how most gangbang porn also isn't for girls, it's for men. Sure, trans people and girls can watch it, enjoy it, everyone is free to do whatever as long as they don't hurt anyone or thing, as far as I am concerned, but the main audience is just plain men.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 hours ago

I know a guy who's a sex worker and he has had quite a few clients who are actively homophobic. When he told me this, I made a comment based on the assumption that these guys were closeted gays with internalised homophobia and he said "no, I think it's something deeper than that"

His theory was that it's basically a convoluted humiliation kink, where they are genuinely grossed out by the idea of having sex with a man, but they do it anyway because of the tabooness of it

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I suppose there"s different kinds of extreme-right and evolutions.
All awful of course.
In Europe they misappropriate LGBT to make a point about Islam and their intollerance to it.
Same for women's rights.
I do not particularly think they care for any of those.
Obviously everywhere they stopped being antisemitic to support their fascist zionist partners.

[–] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Just thought of an alternative theory. Republican states may be more obsessed with trans porn, but maybe its not the anti-trans or Republicans in those states that are obsessed. Maybe the reason why so many are antitrans in those states is the prevalence of trans porn in their communities.

Repressed Republican is an attractive explanation, and probably true for a significant portion, but I doubt it's the full truth.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

That would just be a new occurrence of a known pattern: most hateful are mostly repressing themselves and infuriated by people who aren't.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/

"trans porn in their communities"?

Like, is the model here that people are hanging it from light poles? Generally people have their little fireman time at home, behind closed doors. How the fuck would you know?

[–] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 hours ago

Shout out to Minneapolis, MN for being so trans accepting that they have a large enough community that they can make the list the right way

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 15 hours ago

Its also like they all hate undocumented immigrants but only hire them for work.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Skv@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm scratching my head on this one as well....

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

MADtv - Pervert Senator

https://youtu.be/_CsGfuZh9wI?t=122

("Naked Boy Parade")

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that's so unbelievably not fucking surprising. A weird amount of harassment I've gotten for being trans has been kinda (or occasionally extremely) sexual. Also the redder the area the more I get street harassment.

ETA: Oh upon reading the article, the city I'm thinking of (Lexington, KY, I basically couldn't take a walk without being catcalled there) is in the top 10 cities.

And yeah, anti trans bigotry is interesting because it seems to be an alliance of exterminationist bigotry ("x people should not exist or should be hidden and we should work towards that goal", examples of targeted groups include disabled people, Jewish people, and gay people) and supremacist bigotry ("x people are our lessers and must be forced into their place beneath us", anti black racism is the classic example). You have plenty of transphobes who just want us gone no matter what, but you also have quite a few who think our place is as discreet sex workers and are mad that we are insisting we deserve to live in society as equals and do whatever work we want. They were fine with us as prostitutes, but not as mechanics, as shameful side pieces but how dare we say we deserve to be spouses.

That perspective of us is deeply entwined in the insistence that anything pertaining to us is sexual. They look at us and reduce us solely to the lens of sex then condemn us for it. Then when some of us internalize that our only value as people is as sex objects they point and say "see look, we told you".

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 12 points 17 hours ago

Their hyper-conservative, hyper-religious cultural programming has them willing to do anything to alleviate the cognitive dissonance caused by is contrast with their natural inclinations. Because toxicly masculine patriarchy runs their world, they have no idea how to process their emotions and so they can out. They feel a deep rooted need to adhere to their socia pressuresl and psychological programming, and the result is their contradicting activities, and venomous denial of their taboo activities and thoughts.

I don't have a solution, other than to stay the fuck away from these places.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago
[–] DireTech@sh.itjust.works 8 points 15 hours ago

Needs to skip the maps and go right to the charts at the bottom. I was thinking this was a junk study since the map was pretty close to just being a population density map until I got down to the charts. Not a surprise since they're measuring volume of searches and that'll always correlate to population.

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 18 points 18 hours ago

And this is also why violence often happens, as some of these men can't deal with their own attraction, and rather kill to hide it.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

The only exposure Republicans have to the outside world is through porn

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 156 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ironically, they’re treating trans women the same way they treat cis women—as sexual objects who don’t deserve bodily autonomy.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 23 points 13 hours ago

Yay, equality?

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