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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 292 points 1 month ago (10 children)

The footage, posted by TikTok user legallyswiftie13, captures a tense exchange between airline staff and passengers on the plane as the woman explains she is deaf and had already noted the accommodation on her ticket.

Frontier Airlines says passengers who are deaf or hard of hearing can request assistance either during booking or through the airline’s “Manage Trips” tool.

According to the airline’s assistance page, crew members can work with travelers to, “establish a way to share important flight information,” once they are on board.

The passenger, who is visibly emotional in the video, repeatedly says she is willing to comply, but feels humiliated by the situation.

“I didn’t do anything wrong,” she says in the clip while gathering her belongings.

The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Air Traveler Disability Bill of Rights states that airline staff who interact with passengers must be trained to recognize and accommodate the needs of people with disabilities.

Lawsuit incoming. Or expect MAGA to overturn the ADA.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 165 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Accommodating people with disabilities is "woke".

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 month ago

DEI, or whatever stupid new buzzword they're told to use.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Accommodating people for no material gain is “woke”.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Being empathetic, reasonable and human is against MAGAts and "woke".

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think it is just an easy excuse and buzzword for "you slow down our max profit efficiency by not being simple" like there is an automated process that all of life needs to fit into. So you punish them out of existence by them either not participating or worse.

So we will pass laws to make it so we don't accommodate to squeeze out a little more profit. What a dumb addiction.

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[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 month ago

Lawsuit incoming. Or expect MAGA to overturn the ADA.

That's literally on their to-do list, aka Project 2025.

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 25 points 1 month ago

expect MAGA to overturn the ADA.

This feels likely.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't know how but everyone seems to agree that if anything requires effort or some level of complex thought away from routine that it should be banned.

Like how did we come to expect life to be so easy?
And the people with power will push it like it is right.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (14 children)

Like how did we come to expect life to be so easy?

By it being so easy for so long. How many people do you know that grow any of their own food? How many people do you know that literally never work out and also don't have a physically demanding job? We are victims of our own success. And we have had it so long that we expected it to unsustainably continue ad infinitum.

Also the whole being nice requires a step above basic instincts thing, and conservatives are both lazy physically and intellectually.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 84 points 1 month ago (3 children)

In the footage, a gate agent appears to advocate for the passenger while the flight crew insists she must leave aircraft.

Pretty sure I’d get up and walk off the plane. Not sure I wanna be on that flight with that flight crew.

Not sure what these douche bags were thinking. Great advertisement to NOT fly Frontier though.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm a pilot (not commercial) and if you're still flying Frontier then that is kind of on you.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (7 children)

If you go to a party, how will you know which person is a pilot?

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If they don't flat out tell you, it's usually the drunkest one there

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I don’t fly often… like maybe once every few years. And when I do my boss usually books the flight since It’s work related and it’s usually American or Southwest.

Is Frontier that bad?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yes. The last time i flew Frontier they had such a long delay it would have been faster to walk. No that is not an exaggeration.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 month ago

It is a low cost airline like Spirit.

So yes.

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[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sure I’d get up and walk off the plane. Not sure I wanna be on that flight with that flight crew.

IANAL but it might be better for the future lawsuit to be forced off.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

No I meant just as a sympathetic passenger.

You’re likely totally right about the deaf person.

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[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I know airlines must accommodate people with disabilities, but for this flight attendant they should probably make an exception.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Unfortunately I'm not even remotely surprised. Deaf and hard of hearing people are often targets of people who can't handle someone not doing what they say. Once those people feel their words aren't being shown proper deference some of them can't/won't stop their emotional response to regain dominance. Inability to comply (especially in someone who appears capable) becomes refusal in their eyes, and they'll just stretch it back to something we should have done to prevent them from feeling insubordinated. Cops are notorious for it.

I'd never even thought that one might need to tell an airline that you're Deaf. It's a difficult experience as someone hard of hearing, but it's difficult in the way dealing with the DMV is. Ideally you have a hearing person with you, and if not you bring a pen and paper to communicate when you need a shoulder tapped, and just run by context cues and writing for the rest.

Also I hope this lady consented to being recorded and posted. I'd be so humiliated seeing discrimination against me go viral

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Big lawsuit in Seattle some years back as a police officer shot a deaf man in the back for noncompliance.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wow. Terrible experience but she just won the lottery, that lawsuit will allow her to retire comfortably.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

I train guide dog puppies. From the moment they start training they are legally guide dogs. When they are with me, I'm considered legally blind. In this country, denying entrance into a public/commercial space carries a minimum 6.000€ fine. Judges can go up 5 figures.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

The whole thing is so silly. Wasting everyone’s time instead of ignoring a single drink someone walked on. Is it truly worth 20-30 minutes from 100+ people, yourself included, if a person has a drink? That stewardess must have had a rough week to have made such a fuss over what could have been an inconsequential lie by omission. Even worse if she did this *GAG* for the company.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, even if she downed an open beverage before/while boarding I don't get how that is different from all the other people practically doing shots with added anxiety meds at every airport I have ever been too.
Disposal by aggressive rapid consumption is like an American right of passage.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

Exactly. If she had downed it 3 mins earlier, it would have been 100% kosher? Not worth my time.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Oh geez, frontier claims she brought an open container onboard and that's why she was removed, not because of being deaf.

Wonder who's side of the story is true, witnesses' will come forward and this lady may get a huge lawsuit, or nothing. Only time will tell.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I watched the video when it came out. The first couple sentences the woman speaks do sound as if she's deaf - but then she sounds progressively less deaf as the disagreement goes on. As the public spat continued, I visited her TikTok account and (as of yesterday), she's pinned this December 2024 video where she says the ear doctor told her she's losing her hearing, and you'll notice she's speaking pretty normally.

I have friends and relatives who have become increasingly hard of hearing as they aged, including a couple that have gone completely deaf, and none of them have that "lost hearing before learning to speak" deaf 'accent'. That's because their brain and muscles remember what the movements for those words sound like. They do tend to lose verbal 'crispness' over time, but it takes years. So right off the bat, she was implicitly exaggerating her 'hearing loss' in the viral video.

Someone on yesterday's reddit thread commented in part

I went down a rabbit hole of her TikTok, and she's a disgusting person personality wise. ALWAYS playing the victim. [...] We don't know what led up to this. I hear them constantly bring up "accommodations". My bet is she was making a scene about her "accommodations" and during that the attendant saw the cup. Rather deal with someone whose drunk [...] [they] decided to kick her off so she can [...] calm down.

To which someone else replied

I used to follow her TikTok (until I realized she is super annoying) and she is both a law student and is rather litigious in general. She’s involved in a variety of legal issues with her HOA (which was the story that initially got me to follow, admittedly but it’s no longer interesting).

I'm betting that this isn't the only person who's found her annoying and the HOA storyline now boring and she's lost followers, and this is her latest attempt to ~~recoup followers~~ grift.

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[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like a plot from a cheap comedy.

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[–] islandcoda42@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (25 children)

I think deaf people should be allowed a “hearing ear dog” that can listen for traffic etc for you. And you can bring it anywhere.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

She had her hearing ear dog with her but just ignored its signal barks! That's why the dog wasn't kicked off the plane because those involved saw it was trying to do its job and didn't deserve to miss its flight.

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