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This thought came to me in the shower today. Open source checks most of the boxes. It is a collaborative, worker owned (develloper-owned) project, that tries to flatten hierarchy. Especially if you look at something like Debian ), which really tries to have a bottom-up structure.
Of course, there are exceptions, considering there are a lot of corporate open-source projects, that are not democratically maintained and clearly only serve the interest of the company, who created it (like chromium for example).
So I am mainly talking about community-oriented FOSS projects here.
And if you were to agree with my statement, would you say that developing FOSS software is advancing the goals of the anarchist / communist project, because it is laying the groundwork infrastructure needed for a new kind of economy and society?
Thought this could be an interesting discussion!

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[–] for_some_delta@beehaw.org 1 points 39 minutes ago

I consider FOSS a step toward prefiguring an anarchy.

Current source control management systems however perpetuate heirarchies with roles such as maintainer and developer with different permissions. I like to keep the permissions similar for roles. I might take away foot guns like force push from developers.

Another problem limiting anarchy is consensus. Getting agreement from everyone effected is still not quite there in the merge request process.

[–] monad@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Not Communism in a political sense. More like community based, friendly software.

Open Source as in transparent or non proprietary.

[–] MerryJaneDoe@beehaw.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Not really.

I compare it more to fan fiction and amateur writing. Some is a great read, much better than the garbage you might find on NYT's best seller list. Very talented people doing what they love and trying to be of service to others along the way. FOSS often seems more of a passion project for the creator(s) than an anarchist/communist project, IMHO - although there are obvious parallels.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 52 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, yes, I think it's one of the best examples of anarchism in action the world has ever seen. And an especially pertinent example to point out to those who'd say things like, "Why would anyone do work or innovate without a profit motive?" Lots of good and innovative software, made without any profit incentive by a collective of people who are working on it just because they want to and they enjoy it.

[–] flora_explora@beehaw.org 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I spent hours every day either taking pictures of organisms or identifying them online, just for the sake of it and without financial reimbursement. People who say you need a profit motive to do work are just passionless and detached from the world...

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 39 minutes ago

People who say you need a profit motive to do work are just passionless and detached from the world…

You might even say they're feeling alienated, as a certain German economist might say.

[–] wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 hours ago

I'm definitively printing this and putting it on my wall

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 30 points 9 hours ago

Yes, as an anarchist I regularly point to FOSS as a plausible example of it working

[–] Ice@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I do not.

FOSS is the natural conclusion of public code having a negligible cost to supply once it has been produced. Ideally it takes IP out of the equation and allocates compensation towards development rather than rent extraction.

FOSS is a question of centralization & authority vs decentralization & freedom.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

It's what happens when copyright gets extended to infinity with no useful public domain to speak of. And then they will force you to rent the shit out of the copyright with a monthly subscription.

Linux runs on billions of devices. Every device with a microprocessor, except for the tiny portion of desktops, would be useless hunks of garbage without Linux. And Linux would not have those numbers if it wasn't FOSS. The internet would be a shell of its current self without FOSS and Linux.

The world needs FOSS, and quite frankly, it's a direct counterbalance to the invasive force of capitalism. Anybody who think the GPL isn't political clearly hasn't read anything its creators wrote.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 9 hours ago

Open source is not literally communism, but I do think it's one of the best examples to demonstrate that anarcho-communism is plausible.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 15 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Cory Doctorow has a novel "Walkaway" which is basically "what if society but FOSS". It's really good!

To answer your question, while it has a lot in common with anarchism I don't think anyone benefits from trying to fit it into a predefined political box. It's something new.

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago

It's a great book, and very relevant.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, I didn't think, I would get such an interesting book recommendation out of this. Thank you so much!

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Cory Doctorow is prolific and has written a ton of other great and highly interesting stuff as well. He's a very intelligent fellow.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 9 hours ago

My pleasure! It kind of reminds me of Snow Crash in that it's really fun and adventurous but also made me think deep thoughts.

[–] sanzky@beehaw.org 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I think FOSS enable those kind of communities but I don’t think FOSS as a concept is any of those things. those communities could equally work with a non FOSS license (eg one that prevents commercial use or a license that allow usage only by members of a specific community). They uses existing licenses because they go momentum and have legal precedents that allows people to defend their rights.

Most FOSS licenses were specifically designed to allow profiting from the wok of others, even the GPL. Just see how many billion dollar companies (think Azure, AWS, etc) profit from projects without giving anything back.

I had the same exact thought after Steve balmer called it communist cancer, but then I came to a conclusion. Open source, and fair source software is communist, but free software is not. Free is as freedom and not price. You can make money off of it, but why is it different than OSS. The difference is that Free software protects the user's rights as opposed to OSS. Protecting the user's rights and freedoms is important.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It can definitely be a form of praxis.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry for being a bit of an idiot, but what is praxis?

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The textbook definition would be the application of theory to action. It's basically leftist slang for putting the theories of socialism/communism/humanism into practice in a real way.

[–] DeckPacker@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago

Alright, thanks ;)

[–] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes. It is pretty much exactly how we would do software development.

[–] ati@piefed.social 12 points 10 hours ago

It's an observation of Marx, I think correct, that society organises in a manner aligned around the means of production. Agrarian -> feudal, industrial -> capitalist etc. I think the essential distinguishing feature of software vs capital goods is that software can be copied without the loss of the original. Hence I think the concept of ownership fails and the mode of production becomes anarchist.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Only if you use GPL, not MIT.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

I think MIT is anarchistic license. You can do whatever the fuck you want with it, but for this shit to work for both of us, you really should collaborate

Further, GPL relies on enforcement from an authority on copyrights, which is exactly the opposite of what anarchists suggest

[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yes although what tends to happen is the capitalists just take MIT licenced code and make bank off it.

This is all moot now that LLMs can launder the code anyway.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah we do live in a capitalist world

[–] matsdis@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You obviously want WTFPL instead of MIT for that.

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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 4 points 8 hours ago

I think it's more of a socialist mindset that is spreading with FOSS, because it focuses it's workings on the common good, Most FOSS projects can be named socialist by nature; they encourage working together to create something bigger, something that doesn't let the small guy fall through the created network. I believe a lot of anarchistic workings are socialist at their core, and FOSS is an embodiment of these workings.

[–] glitzer_gadze@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

I think that communism-capitalism are very inadequate dimensions for discribing the world.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a non-market way of doing things, so sure it fits the definition, but labels are dumb, and the people who really like labels are worse.

You'll also notice that you still have to pay for whatever device Linux goes on, which is a strong hint about the economics at play.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah I agree about the labels. The worst part of communism is the people who like communism. I am a simple man, I just want to be technically a communist without liking it or even being remotely interested in it, thankyouverymuch. Open source is great for that.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 9 hours ago

I was introduced to communism/socialism through Linux.

[–] ResistingArrest@lemmy.zip 4 points 10 hours ago

There are some people who are in it for what you've listed (flattened hierarchy, worker owned, etc) but there are others who are in it for personal ownership and control, which may align better w/ a libertarian set of values, but you're not wrong about the ancom aspects

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 hours ago

No. It strongly depends on the project, they can be organized very differently. You can always fork, but you can also always try to topple dictatorship

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

In Soviet Russia, code programs you!

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Are they programming on a Mac?

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 2 points 9 hours ago

I used to think so. It's ideologically sound except for allowing corporations the same free use as anyone else. There are plenty of forward thinking people who would never want to support the oppressive evil of massive technology corporations and would never intentionally help them. Then they publish free software and directly help them anyway. It's not a coincidence that most "free" software is funded by the US tech industry who is directly benefited from it. I'm not sure of a way to change it that would help regular people faster than it helps private industry crush regular people.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Most of the systems that enslave us run on linux.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Most systems that enslave us runs on electricity, and cruelty, and malice, and the will to dominate all life.

- galadriel or something

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