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[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 minutes ago

I liked subnautica quite a lot anyway, but I would buy the second one either way just to contribute to them paying the 250.

[–] ryan_@piefed.social 6 points 1 hour ago

My first reaction is: lmao fuck Krafton

My second reaction is: you absolute fucking idiot, what did you expect when you sold to a mega corpo??

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Unknown Worlds is only one of the top tier niche devs of all time.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 28 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

I looked up a similar article without a paywall:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/ousted-subnautica-2-devs-allege-krafton-asked-ai-how-to-avoid-paying-bonus/1100-6536280/

"Krafton recently declared itself to be an "AI-first company," which led Unknown Worlds to issue a statement indicating that Subnautica 2 will not feature generative AI."

The "AI first" shit is pure gold. I love the instant karma. Why are these CEOs throwing their money, reputation, etc. away on AI? Either they are even stupider than I thought, or the tech bros have some kind of massive blackmail machine they're using to take over everything and puppet all the CEOs.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

Execs in this sort of company are narrative first, facts a distant second. LLMs speak their language, something agreeable that sounds right whether it is or not.

BTW, investors are largely in the same boat, they are investing with having no realistic way to know whether the nice things being said are backed by reality up front. They only know if/when it goes down in a blaze.

Further in gaming, maybe they tank some headliner properties with bad reviews if the mess them up, but it's possible that most of the 'sold' games barely even get played, thanks to Steam hoarding. A lot of businesses can coast on past glory for years and years before things blow up, if at all.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Yes, this is the reason it’s so popular with them. While the baseline ass-kissing of chatGPT makes me vomit, they think it’s the greatest invention in the world and don’t understand how somebody doesn’t love it

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

It's because in order to become a ceo, you have to be a very specific type of person, and the role also attracts this trait of putting money above all else, which fits perfectly to the role.

Imagine if you invested in a company that helmed a ceo that didn't try to make more money. Right? You'd be upset as the investor-role that your money wasn't working for you, and would take the guy out.

This is the common, public opinion.

So the same goes for the CEO: that maximum money be made by being different and taking good chances and staying on top of the technology curve. And OpenAI has been, at least what they, themselves, purport, overwhelmingly successful.

This is all to say that the role of CEO draws a ton of people who think a lot of themselves and their abilities, because they think fake it until you make it is the role, because it largely is: you have to make bets on decisions to lead like that. Which makes CEOs this sort of hollow, fake-person sort of capitalist sociopath.

And them betting on AI-first, then, makes a ton of sense if you're that specific type of person. Because, unless you have your own skills and opinions, you will be beholden to the dumbest, fakest, skewed statistical other bullshitters in the world.

Right now, the companies making all these mistakes that all of us with actual skills and opinions can clearly see, those are just the companies that don't matter, that are leeching off the backs of real industries. Like a group of kids all cheating off each other in a test, and suddenly a bunch of them get the same wrong answer.

They're literally the people, and boards of people who put them there, who have no fucking idea what they're doing, and in my personal opinion, are very clearly illustrating a weak point with society and humanity and our values and structures across the world. We'll get past this one, for sure. But there will be more. That is the both the curse and the gift of existence.

[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

They're simply stupider than you thought. They buy into hype so fast without really listening to the experts already on the team.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Either they are even stupider than I thought, or the tech bros have some kind of massive blackmail machine they're using to take over everything and puppet all the CEOs.

I think it's a little of each.

The ones not being blackmailed are desperately trying to look like they're impactful enough to blackmail.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

I know the type. They list themselves exclusively on job search sites for high earners like "Ladders", they don't listen to their employees ever because they're a subhuman resource, they are first in line at every ceremony or circle jerk meeting, but nowhere to be found when actual work needs done, they spent the last few years bringing up how badly they want to go back to the office full time, and they unironically speak in corporatese even on Christmas. They like sports teams because they're popular and a good segway, not because they care about the team, they view it as their duty to keep the ranks broken down and working hard in fear of their jobs.

[–] vinyl@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Ehhh 404 still has a bit more to say on

https://archive.is/yIkXA

[–] Fnaargh@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

But teh Computa said no...

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 146 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Watching a CEO get fucked by using AI is orgasmic.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 36 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

The CEO will be fine at the end of the day.

The workers are going to get fucked, though.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 hours ago

Yeah. These illegal firings happened around 9 months ago. I doubt these guys had the funds to just sit on the sidelines, doing nothing, hoping that the court would rule in their favour. Even if they're offered their jobs back, it could be that by now they've made other commitments.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At the moment this is a win for the workers. They should get their full share of the payout, now. The main danger is now their parent company may be hostile to them (or even try to close them) until the parent company CEO gets replaced.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 hours ago

until the parent company CEO gets replaced.

One would hope pulling such a boneheaded move ought to make that happen rather quickly.

Of course, if this CEO has been there for more than a year or 2, he would probably get a golden parachute for more than the value of his fuckup...

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago

oh god, sounds like Krafton were already assholes. I bet the put the other 250 in and sell it in pieces.

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 17 points 5 hours ago

If there was any justice, he would have to pay out double the entire amount (including bonus) to the devs.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 139 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is the kind of successful entrepreneur we're supposed to be looking up to, people.

[–] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 90 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Exactly, the fact this dude at Krafton can sign 250 million dollars deals but is also dumb enough to think a ChatGPT lawyer knows better than his own lawyers... It goes to show that many powerful people were just lucky or inherited their wealth but are definitely not successful because they are smart.

[–] sleepundertheleaves@infosec.pub 55 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep. And I'd go further. Class mobility in the West is dead. No matter how smart and skilled and competent you are, you will never be one of the ultra-rich - and no matter how ignorant and incompetent one of the ultra-rich is, they'll never lose enough money to become "merely" well off. The entire broken system, one that's designed to funnel money from the working class to a handful of ultra-rich families, will keep making the rich richer no matter what they do.

We have a billionaire caste, not a billionaire class, and this story makes it painfully obvious.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Throughout pretty much all of human history it's been apparent that the "nobles" class has been, at best, more trouble than they're worth; and at worst, the instigating spark that creates a nation-destroying blaze.

It should come as no surprise to anyone who has read a history book that the American nobleman is equally as useless and destructive as his counterpart anywhere else.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 15 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

While undoubtedly true, this story is about a South Korean CEO of a South Korean company.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 hours ago

Sure. This comment thread is about class mobility in the West though.

But, fact is, it seems it's the same everywhere.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

definitely not successful because they are smart.

I mean, "smart" is a relative term. They were smart enough to find the money hose and latch onto it. But the skills necessary to schmooze $250M out of a creditor are fundamentally different than the skills necessary to manage a workforce or meet the terms of the contract.

You can call it the Peter Principle or the Principle-Agent Problem or any number of other business short-hands for "skills mismatch". The bottom line is that "meritocracy" in a capitalist system boils down to rent-seeking effectiveness. That's the skill set that is rewarded. And it produces legions of people who train and compete for the opportunity to maximize rent-seeking returns.

This guy fumbled the ball in a spectacular fashion. But I have no doubt he'll get back on his horse and find another pool of labor to extract wealth from. Because, if he's a CEO, he's honed the skills needed to do exactly that.

What we get to mock him for is his failure, not his decision. If he'd retrieved a useful answer from the ChatGPT answer lottery, or the courts had been stacked with his friends such that any answer he pulled was considered the right one, he'd be hailed as a business genius on the front page of the WSJ rather than scoffed at in the back pages of 404media.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Exactly "being smart" and "acting smart" are two different things. Usain bolt is the "fastest" man on Earth, but if he's just chilling on the couch watching TV, I can run right past him.

Same with these ivy league CEOs, they probably (not necessarily) were smart when taking their tests in school, but if they just leave the fate of their company to chatgpt responses, they're acting as dumb as possible at the current moment.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is why the LLMs are so popular with execs, they are the ultimate yes men. They will feed ego and purport to give a strategy that will support any dumbass idea without challenging them.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

That's half of it. The other half is that these execs think that everybody under them is some kind of replaceable cog in the machine with no special skills. They don't think their job could be replaced by AI. But, they think everyone under them is so unimportant that their job can be done by AI. They're managers. They don't know how to do the work of the people they're managing. They can't tell the difference between an accurate result given to them by someone with knowledge and expertise vs. one created by a slop machine that generates plausibly realistic text.

If their $1000/hour lawyers tell them one thing, but the bullshit machine tells them something different, they trust whichever one gives them the answer they prefer.

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[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 10 points 6 hours ago

Finally, AI investments paying off

[–] track_stick_baboon@lemmy.world 194 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I was against ChatGPT, but now I think it could be useful as a moron honeypot.

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Not just a wanker, also a pea-brained gibbering dicksplat.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

Atlas ~~Shrugged~~ Sharted

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

pea-brained gibbering dicksplat

That sounds something from one of those "pick 3 insult generator" sites :p

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Sheer fucking hubris.

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