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I absolutely want to get rid of changing clocks every year, which is nice because BC is doing just that
Unfortunately I think BC is going permanent Daylight savings, where I would prefer permanent Standard. It's much nicer to wake up to daylight in the morning, and I don't particularly care for doing outdoor activities at 10-11pm.
Absolutely. But they need to do it right. Eby's "permanent" change to Daylight Savings Time will most likely get rescinded in a year or two just like it has everywhere else it has been tried because it doesn't work. That hour on winter mornings is needed far, far more than the hour in the evening in the summer. He would have been much better to have not changed the time on March 8th and just left it alone.
Yes, as long as they go back to the standard for time zones.
My region has not.
Ontario already has legislation for this, but it's tied to I think New York and Quebec doing the same
Quebec hasn't passed legislation, but they've agreed in theory to do it if Ontario and New York also do it.
So we're pretty much just waiting on New York.
@prodigalsorcerer @tooclose104 that’s what BC was saying for a while. That they had to wait for the states in the Western US to do it. But eventually BC just pulled the trigger and did it without them
Yeah, I don't have much hope of it happening in Ontario with our current government. It seems too difficult to use in a way that enriches him or his buddies. Best we can hope for is it happening right before the next election in hopes that we ignore all the corruption and just think "hey, ~~buck a beer!~~ ~~$200 cheques!~~ no more time change!"
@prodigalsorcerer yeah speaking of corruption in ontario, duggies new legislation on FOI requests is actually wild. I hope that somehow manages to not make it thru
Alberta here. Fuck yes! The premise of DST is stupid. Changing twice a year is more stupider.
Abolish it forever and move to standard time.
Also Alberta, also yes.
Danielle Smith would be less able to break things while working on it, too.
Fully support ditching the switch.
Yes. Please keep it at standard time. Keep noon at noon.
In BC we are now on permanent daylight savings. Gives us a winter dark around 4:30 instead of 3:30
Also in BC. We should have gone with permanent Standard time imo.
Same here. Wish they put it to referendum, no idea why they went with daylight savings.
Why would you want sunrise at 330 in the summer?
Why not? Wake up naturally with no alarm clock at like 6am ready to take on the day and feeling refreshed. Sunlight pouring through the windows as you drink your coffee and get showered.
I would rather have a ton of sunlight in the morning then late in the evening.
Most people won't even notice if they leave work at 5pm, will still be dark no matter what so why not have an extra hour of light in the morning instead? I much prefer standard.
You chose to be consistantly wrong ?
I support ending seasonal time changes. There is considerable data showing that these changes cause health issues and more workplace injuries. However, staying on daylight saving time isn't the right choice. Every jurisdiction that has tried this has been compelled to revert to seasonal adjustments. The best option is Standard Time, as it aligns most closely with solar time, which our bodies naturally follow.
Other than the poorly implemented experiment in the States, who else has reverted? Saskatchewan is (effectively) permanent daylight time, as are Argentina, Malaysia, and Singapore. Possibly there's a bunch of other countries that I don't know about as well.
I want global coordination on either 0 or whatever time changes done simultaneously.
@humanspiral this is what China does. It should be like 4 or 5 timezones or smthg but they only use one: their Eastern-most timezone. From what I understand though the locals in the Western provinces don’t really use the official time in their day to day. They still stick to the old, unofficial timezones. I think that shows that even if we did have one coordinated global timezone people wouldn’t necessarily use it
Get rid of time change. Have a referemdum for Standard or Daylight, then stick to it.
In BC, we've switched to permanent PDT. But why are we still calling it pacific time? It's obviously Mountain Time.
It’s always “Pacific”, regardless if it is ST or DST.
The real fuckery is that the referendum gave us only two choices, not three:
There was no option for permanent Standard Time, so everyone chose the least-worst option instead of the much better one that wasn’t even provided.
No I prefer gmt-7 to gmt-8. I just think year-round gmt-7 should be called "mountain time."
For west coast permanent daylight is better. We have darkness around 3:30 pm in winter, so now it will be 4:30 which is much better driving hone from work with some daylight. And with daylight time in summer its getting light out around 4:30-4:45am, if we went back to standard time that would be 3:30-3:45am. I don't enjoy sunshine that early
I say we change the time every day such that sunrise is 6am in Toronto. Fuck your/my microwave clock. Permanent standard time would have some post 8am sunrises.
I live in Saskatchewan, so I already don't change my clocks at all and I can say with certainty that it is better this way! Please stop changing your clocks!
I found out that Saskatchewan is on permanent Daylight time (more evening sun) which is, by most studies, the 'worse' option. However, it is still better than changing the clocks and once you stop the flip-flop, it is so much better.
Also from Saskatchewan, lived in Alberta for a few years. I have literally never in my life had a moment where I wished Sask did time changes, and found it stressful and annoying every time it happened while living elsewhere.
Stop changing your clocks! Good job BC, I hope you start some dominoes!
Yes. Dump DST, its well overdue.
I'm in BC and I'm glad we're not doing the changes again. That said, I do wish we stuck with standard time instead, but I'll get used to it.
Jesus, people are fucking obsessed with this.
Every 6 months we go through this bullshit.
Let's pick one day a year for Easter while we're at it.
Fun fact: While Roman Catholic church erased Jesus from Christianity in year 390, and 900, they decided to change Easter schedule to be different than Passover in order to not be strictly about old testament divine rights of kings for war.
There is a week every year (maybe 2 don’t remember the study too well) that there is an increase of car accidents and heart attacks when the clocks fall back (or spring forward again don’t remember the study too well). I am glad I live in Saskatchewan where our livestock wouldn’t understand why they are being fed at different times!
As I understand it, when the time zones and time changing was being developed Saskatchewan said no time change “because the cows wouldn’t understand why they were being fed at different times.” So all I can say is here to the livestock!
But seriously different parts of the world and parts of Canada can do without time changes, I understand why Canada likes time zones but time changes are silly. We should really all just follow Europe, I think they all follow one time zone, and all get into GMT and adjust our lives to that. If all the world was one time zone could you imagine how much easier it would be to schedule meetings and the such. Yes I understand I it would be confusing why 9 to 5 would be different, 15:00 to 23:00 (in Saskatchewan). As I understand it China has one time zone as well, of course there are plenty of small counties that only fall into one time zone.
Yes. In Alberta, especially in the central/northern region, the time change doesn't serve any particular purpose. Our daylight hours are very long in the summer and very short in the winter, so changing the specific time the sun rises and sets hardly makes a difference.
Personally I prefer standard time over DST, and I think a lot of people here share that opinion. We probably would have switched over years ago if our government had any shred of competence.