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    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I hate my monitor for that. Entering the bios is guesswork about when to press a key if I remember what key to press. Also I can't turn it on too early before the PC or it will go to stand by after not receiving a signal for two seconds and then take even longer.

    I want a monitor turns on and stays on.

    [–] ark3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    Let me guess, samsung odyssey? Had one of those, never again.

    Friend even called me that he has fucked up his pc rebuild - his Samsung monitor was just not waking up because it literally turns off.

    [–] aeiou@piefed.social 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

    I've learned the hard way that there's only one decent Samsung product line - from big appliances to little electronics - and it's their phones (and even those leave questions on privacy).

    [–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    That's funny, while I still buy Samsung TVs, I hate their phones. So much of what their phones can do is usually locked to only working in Samsung's apps and those are universally dog shit. The phones themselves are also often privacy and user control nightmares.

    Granted, there isn't a lot of good choices for phones these days. I'm still running an old LG phone and have been looking outside Android as my next possible solution. But, I also haven't had a reason to upgrade.

    [–] aeiou@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Have a Samsung TV and it's by far my least favorite. Turns off at random, takes forever to switch inputs, turns on at random...

    As for phones I'm eyeing the Motorola RazrFold, since they're supposedly offering it Graphene-ready

    [–] FG_3479@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Turn off all of the Energy Saving/Eco Solution crap. It will stop turning off and you will get s brighter inage that doesn't shift in brightness.

    You should also switch to Movie mode in the picture settings and set dejudder/deblur (under Motion Clarity) to 0 while you're at it so it doesn't turn everything into 60 fps with fake frames.

    [–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I heard Samsung's SD cards are good

    [–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Their SSDs are/were considered amongst the best options, but I haven't looked into them since the 970 Evo days and they could be crap now for all I know.

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    [–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

    in that case there are zero decent Samsung product lines.

    horrible repairability, horrible privacy with all the built in bloatware and spyware, no more bootloader unlock to get rid of all of them, but even before they made that impossible they were the only android phone maker that required their own quirky tools for that, and blowing permanent efuses while at it.

    [–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

    It's an MSI but now looking at pictures ofequivalent samsung odysseys it might very well be the same monitor with a different sticker on the back.

    And yes, it turns off, the PC doesn't see a monitor so it doesn't send a signal, and the monitor doesn't turn on either because it's not receiving any signal.

    REISUB time when that happens.

    [–] eli@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

    All modern monitors are like this now. Dell, HP, Asus...

    Doesn't detect input? Instant power off. Now you have to press the menu key every 5 seconds to try and find the input for your PC.

    Beyond ridiculous. I have a Dell that's like 15 years old and it stays on for multiple minutes before going into power saving. It's glorious

    [–] spamspeicher@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

    Typical Samsung product. Good hardware, acceptable build quality/ material selection, horrible software.

    On mine you can't even select the input manually, the monitor always cycles through every input. Couldn't find anything on input 2 I just plugged in? Let's do another round of checking all inputs for 10 seconds, and again, and again.... And always finish on the input you started, or turn off if no active input is found.

    Software always destroys their products.

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    [–] notthebees@reddthat.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    I have a modern Lenovo monitor (2020) that takes longer to wake up than my hp monitor. So annoying.

    Edit: aforementioned is from 2011 and is a zr2040w.

    The Lenovo monitor is a d22e-20

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    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 57 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Fun fact about monitors turning on slowly: did you know Windows has a bluescreen code for that?

    The WIN32K_POWER_WATCHDOG_TIMEOUT bug check has a value of 0x0000019C. This indicates that Win32k did not turn the monitor on in a timely manner.

    ~ https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/debugger/bug-check-0x19c--win32k-power-watchdog-timeout

    That's right, Windows will panic and throw a bluescreen if your monitors take a little too long to wake up. Had the pleasure of dealing with this suddenly becoming an issue and causing wide bluescreens on wakeup after an update back in mid-2024, on any Surface Dock using DisplayPort with specific Acer monitors.

    [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Woah woah..... is there someplace in the event logs where this would show? Does this mean that you cannot run a windows computer headless?

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    It gets logged in the event viewer, yeah. That's how I discovered it, on account of the screens not waking up in time to show the actual bluescreen. The users were only reporting that their computers were deleting all their windows when waking up. From their perspective, all they saw was their computer taking a mildly longer time to wake up from deep sleep and then losing their entire session, but what it was actually doing was hard rebooting.

    Headless is fine, the bug was specifically triggered when a computer woke up and detected a monitor exists, but the monitor took some unspecified amount of time too long to wake up. It was also fixed at some point, I'm not sure when, but it went on long enough that we swapped dozens of cables because it specifically only happened on the ones using DisplayPort, not HDMI.

    [–] idogoodjob@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

    Oh shit, this may be the problem I've been having with my laptop dock at work

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    [–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 53 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 weeks ago

    THIS WAS THE MEME I WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING FOR!! Thanks!

    [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago

    I feel like the boot time is almost entirely uefi ram timing shenanigans these days

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    I thought arch was all about reducing bloat. Is gentoo better than arch?

    [–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 46 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Gentoo recompiles everything, so it can do optimisations based on your particular setup Arch can't.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    You can also just recompile the kernel and any utils yourself on Arch, if you want

    [–] davad@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    You can recompile the kernel in any distro. In Gentoo, you have to compile the kernel (because you compile everything).

    [–] mkwt@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    In Gentoo, you have to compile the kernel

    This is not true any more. Gentoo provides sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin as an option.

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    [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Yeah, but I'm using Arch cause I have better things to do. You guys have fun compiling your own stuff without me.

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    [–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 10 points 3 weeks ago

    Obviously arch can be rebuilt pretty easily, gentoo does almost nothing that arch can't, and rebuilding itself osn't one of those things. Look up ABS.

    [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    What's this "boot" of which you speak?

    Do people really turn their machines off these days?

    [–] xvertigox@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yes, I'm not wasting my hardware life and electricity for no gain.

    [–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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    [–] Flipper@feddit.org 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    You've got to reboot after kernel updates, otherwise it can't load new modules. I've been confused at least twice why something didn't load until.I remembered the reboot.

    [–] tux7350@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    I think the command "systemctl kexec" would like to have a word. Great command to know if you have a VM on a system you dont manage / share with others.

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    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Yup. My entire PC desk (monitor, PC, 2+1 speakers) draw 7W when the PC is turned off (old speakers draw power when off for some reason). For comparison: My NUC server draws 7W white turned on, doing useful work. This infuriates me, so I got a zigbee power switch and shut the PC desk completely off when I'm not home.
    If 7W for nothing pisses me off, you're damn straight an idle or sleeping PC will too!

    [–] festus@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago
    [–] user28282912@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Gentoo is GOAT. I am also glad that Arch exists though. Both have excellent wikis, good knowledgeable communities, lots of configuration options. In terms of pure speed, it is hard to beat a build it all from source as per your own custom USE flags setup like in Gentoo.

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    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

    Full disk encryption
    (I can't beat monitor powering up.)

    [–] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago

    Slowing you down. Ah, same. I may have used higher than default iterations πŸ˜…

    [–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Maybe dropbear and unlock really fast from another device where the monitor is already on?

    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 weeks ago

    I'll just get one of those closed sauce humanoid robots dependent on AI megacorps to input the pass at superspeed.

    Or just tell it to keep the monitor turned off & only power it on once desktop shows up.

    The future is near!!

    Get a ardunio and wire up a bop-it so you can unlock your computer faster.

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    [–] librekitty@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    this reminds me i should update my kernel

    [–] Steve@startrek.website 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    Statements of the utterly deranged

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    [–] redsand@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago

    Keep going. Kevin can get smaller, leaner, faster and hopefully has apparmor or selinux already.

    [–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

    My laptop boots much faster than my desktop PC (both running Fedora 43) despite my desktop PC being much faster.

    [–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Does your desktop have more RAM, or faster RAM? If so, the training step can take much longer. In your desktop’s BIOS look for a setting called β€œMemory Context Restore” and turn it on. That can dramatically speed up boot times.

    [–] httperror418@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

    That setting is no joke, I was pissed I didn't enable it sooner

    My machine went from 45+ seconds to 13 for boot

    [–] UntouchedWagons@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Oh wow that's so much better!

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