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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 5 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

Today I learned I might be too ret.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago

The root means "slow", BTW, so it does get to join that list.

[–] Speiser0@feddit.org 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Too protective/remarkably protective? I made this up, but if usage started with peasantry or something it kind of makes sense.

[–] melvisntnormal@feddit.uk 8 points 2 hours ago

ahh so that's why charizard is so hot

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

See also: haggard, laggard, braggart (this one changed to a ‘t’ for some reason), dastard, dullard, and a few others. It’s uncommon but it’s out there!

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] cori@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

people who confuse entomology and etymology bug me in ways i can't put into words

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 hour ago
[–] Paulemeister@feddit.org 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] specimen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I think there’s a wacky Japanese comic book about this

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 2 hours ago

“-ard” would mean not so much “excessively” as “by their/its nature”; i.e. a seed/condiment whose very nature is mustiness, a person conceived out of wedlock (which was considered a black mark on one’s character back then), one who is habitually drunk, and so on

[–] 5715@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

goonard? looksarding?

[–] stray@pawb.social 18 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

It's not "too" something; it's just being strong (hardy) or remarkable in that trait. A lot of sources list it as derogatory, but it isn't so in all instances of use.

A wizard is not too wise, but very wise. Renard or Reinhardt is someone who gives good advice or makes good decisions.

The "must" in mustard is juice and pulp which you intend to ferment, because grape must was an ingredient. There's a lot of debate over whether the "ard" is the one in this post or ardens (burning).

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 42 minutes ago

"Wizard" historically had a negative connotation though.

It's to be expected that an old suffix can have multiple meanings.

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 1 points 50 minutes ago

A wizard is not too wise, but very wise.

Thanks, that one was strangard.

[–] froh42@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Mallard ducks would be very confused about this post.

[–] xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 hours ago

They're very much filled eith "too much" malice

[–] jedibob5@lemmy.world 31 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

So a lizard must be an excess of Liz?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 18 minutes ago

There used to be a lot of excess Lizzo, but she lost weight on GLP1s, like everybody else in Hollywood.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

The opposite of Thin Lizzy.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 17 points 7 hours ago

Oh no, people are gonna start being called "Rizzards" soon.

[–] null@lemmy.org 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So when people call me a retard they're saying I'm overly moist?

[–] Klear@quokk.au 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Retard means literally "delayed", ultimately from latin tardus (also see "tardy"), meaning slow. Doesn't seem like it comes from the same suffix.

[–] null@lemmy.org 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago

That you have an excess of Ret, not Wet.

C'mon, retard, figure it out.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

"What are we going to call this fish? It's got... so much pilch... maybe a bit too much if I'm honest"

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The -ard here refers to the overabundace of regional channels: HR, WDR, SWR, NDR, BR, RBB, MDR, etc. pp.

This reminds me of a card-based cooking game, Cookard... which does, in fact, contain an overabundance of cooking.

[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 78 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] tyler@programming.dev 24 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The exact sentence I came to post. Apparently we all think alike.

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 21 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The -ard is basically "fucking" + nominaliser (if necessary):

  • wizard - fucking wise one
  • drunkard - fucking drunk one
  • coward - fucking tail (the initial part is from Old French "coue" tail, itself from Latin "cauda" tail. Who shows the back in a fight? Someone running away!)

The "nominaliser" part is an artefact of the borrowing, the suffix is from French. Romance languages often use adjectives as if they were nouns, but that doesn't quite roll in English. In turn French borrowed it from Frankish, it's apparently cognate of English "hard".

The etymology of "mustard" is disputed. The first part is likely from Latin "mustum" must; it used to be prepared with young wine. The -ard is typically explained as ardens (fiery, hot). So basically "mustum ardens" hot must. ...Capsicum peppers are from the Americas, black pepper and long pepper were expensive, European mediaevalards didn't really have a lot of spicy flavours to work with, so... I guess mustard was spicy for them?

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm going to turn "wizard" back into an insult. Some smart-aleck tries to act bougie: "fuck off, wizard"

[–] Gyroplast@pawb.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Pronounce it /ˈwaɪzɝd/ for added effect! Don't go overboard, though, or you may be called a custard.

[–] dovahking@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I love learning new stuff through memes.

[–] superfes@lemmy.world 42 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Shit piss fuck cunt cocksucker motherfucker tits fart turd and twat

There you go. I cust too much.

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

This is largely true. English takes '-ard' from Old French. MW defines it as:

one that is characterized by performing some action, possessing some quality, or being associated with some thing especially conspicuously or excessively

The main point is that it's generally just a pejorative suffix.

Citing the Trésor de la langue française informatisé, however, Wiktionary puts forward a surprisingly cogent counterargument and alternative etymology to the "packsaddle" one for "bastard".

[–] helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 6 hours ago

French still has this feature, for instance a driver is a chauffeur, and a bad driver is a chauffard. Some one who goes overboard with partying is a fêtard, etc.

[–] VivianRixia@piefed.social 32 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So, calling someone a bast-ard, implies that their mother slept around on many beds that weren't the marriage bed. Does that mean it all comes back to calling your mother a whore?

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 33 points 8 hours ago (4 children)
[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

I think in English there is also:

  • Comparing the subject to an animal, such as a dog.
  • Slurs for various minorities.
  • Names for 'vulgar' body parts, or the act of sex itself.
  • Names for human waste products.
  • Literal 'curse words', such as "damn" or "hell", which imply the subject will go to, or just allude to the existence of, the Christian hell.
  • Literal swears, as in oaths. This is pretty rare in modern English aside from "I swear to god... ". The word "gadzooks" is actually a minced version of "God's Hooks" (the nails used in the crucifixion), which was probably shortened from "I swear on God's Hooks". Its pretty funny how something that was probably deadly serious in the past has been diluted so much that now only cartoon characters say it.
  • Literal profanity, as in invoking the holy in an improper context. This has a lot of overlap with the previous two categories.

I don't really know anything about linguistics, but these seem like the categories to me. In addition to the "alludes to the sexual impropriety of the subject (if female) or the subject's mother (if male)" category.

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