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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Honestly this is the most interesting thing in the world of mobile for me since I initially heard about GrapheneOS looking to branch out to another OEM as an option.

Assuming it is in fact a Motorola phone, it would have to be a big piece of shit or unbelievably expensive for what it is before I wouldn't be very tempted by it.

If it was literally a Moto G Power 2025/2026 with GrapheneOS out of the box for $300-$800 I would probably be on board. Supporting something not Google Play or Apple bound is important enough to me that I will pay some level of a premium price for it to support the mission behind it, like I do with System76.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 6 days ago (7 children)

This is especially good news since Motorola makes some of the few phones with a headphone jack. I just hope that whatever phone they make isn't some nearly 7" behemoth like their current line.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 days ago (9 children)

At this point you HAVE to make it a 7" behemoth to get sales, but a lower-volume model with a smaller screen would be a great addition to the lineup. But I can't imagine too many people buy them because Apple stopped making the Minis and they don't usually stop making things that make them money. I actually loved my 13 mini. If this Motorola-GrapheneOS partnership ends up spawning a phone of that size (I do think a lot of privacy enthusiasts may also be smaller phone enthusiasts), I may finally go back to Android.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Xperia 5 still sells. Mine is a bit over 5".

Edit: ok, sells not that good. Why? Mine often gets jealous glances in public transport. Fits nicely in hand and pocket.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Xperia is massively overpriced, full of bloatware, trash software, 2 years of software updates, and they're absolutely massive. And not just massive but like, insanely tall. Hard to believe they're still around while LG has called it quits.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Man I remember when they made some of the best phones. Granted this was like a decade, decade and a half ago. My first Android phone was an Xperia that was still Sony Ericsson rather than Sony, and the only really noticeable things it added to AOSP were the launcher (not nearly as bad as TouchWiz at the time) and the display and sound were pretty good for a midrange phone made in the very early 2010s.

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[–] clawfennik123@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Honestly thought they'd partner up with fairphone since both companies share a similar view in longevity for the end user. Hope Motorola does the same

[–] orioler25@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Fairphone has a partnership with Murena to ship a variant of the Gen 6 with e/OS/, don't they?

[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 27 points 6 days ago
[–] kepix@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

lenovo doesnt strike me as a privacy lover and avid kernel updater.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Motorola is a major supplier of communication equipment for the IDF and produces bomb fuses used in IDF's bombs. It also donated money to Project 2025.

I don't know, I expect them to call it the (We're clear on) OPSEC 1

Yeah, i expected lemmy to be more informed about it but kinda surprising how many people don't know about it.

[–] vodka@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They don't for me either, but they've recently pushed a lot into making enterprise phones. Guaranteeing timely security updates for 7 years and such.

I haven't actually checked if this is just marketing bs and if they're following up on it or not though.

Motorola is notorious for not providing updates. Which is sad, because their phones have decent hardware, almost-vanilla Android and allow bootloader unlocking.

Also many models still have headphone port and expandeable storage.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (11 children)

As an iPhone user from the 3G days, this is legitimately interesting to me. I love the form factor of the modern Razr flip-phones, and having access to a privacy-focused OS like Graphene might just tip me over the edge.

Anyone with first-hand experience, how’s Graphene OS with banking apps?

[–] berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

It runs fine on my Pixel 7a, I have an account with 2 Brazilian banks and they all work well.

Some apps just don't work though, but they are far and between, an example is Brazil's gov.br, which is a website that is used for ID confirmation on everything that pertains to the government (tax revenue, your own business details,etc.). But then an old phone does that job for me at home.

Speaking of Brazil, it is worth mentioning that Google Pixels are not officially sold here. The ones I did obtain I bought on a "Brazilian eBay" and there is no e-SIM support for it nor any warranty services. I had to do the battery replacement myself despite knowing that Google was offering to fix faulty Pixel 7a's on NA/India/Europe/etc. I am only bringing this up because, coincidentally, 50% of Motorola's smartphone sales are on LATAM. It's a pretty smart move they are making if you ask me, they are aware they could explore this huge market it seems.

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[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I haven't had any trouble with banking apps. One gives me a warning but allows me to continue. Google Wallet doesn't work for payments but that is just fine with me.

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[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 20 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Fucking finally. The only reason I couldn't get my hands on GrapheneOS is due to having to buy a Pixel which, wherever I look, would be around $400-$500 for something that they themselves admit would likely only get around 7 years of support.

I can't spend that kind of money right now. I need something below $300 and if possible, below $200.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Honestly, $400-$500 for 7 years of support is a killer deal. 5 years ago the only manufacturer to give a meaningful amount of support was Apple, everyone else was up to 2, even for flagships.

But I completely understand your situation, especially if you're trying to be fiscally responsible and NOT get your phone on a payment plan of some sort. The 7 years of support means you might be able to find a 2 year old Pixel for below 300 though? Unless they don't depreciate fast enough for that.

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[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Unfortunately the first device from this partnership is unlikely to be cheaper than the a series Pixel lineup. The GrapheneOS team already confirmed it will have a flagship snapdragon SOC. Have you looked into used a series Pixel devices? The 8a can be had refurbished in the low $200 range, and it will have software support for 5 more years. The 9a can be had for about $250 and will receive 6 more years of updates.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

If they've got a model with a stylus then I'm sold.

[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Switched from Motorola to a pixel for Grapheme. This is cool to learn!

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[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hell yeah. I use a Motorola so hopefully I can get back support.

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 5 points 6 days ago

GrapheneOS has strict requirements about hardware being secure enough, so if existing Motorola phones were secure enough then they'd already be supported. This is presumably about future devices that Motorola are going to build.

[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

FUCK YEAH! LETS GOOO!

My moto g85 doesn't have any custom roms yet. I just tried on Lineage OS old 8.1.0 rom for my moto Z and now I desperately want to do the same on my current phone. Lineage is what I hoped for but now Graphene? FUCK YEAH!

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I've used pixels but before then I used to use Motorola. I always like them and they had the best gestures like the twist shake to turn on the flashlight and the tip shake to turn on the camera.

Damn.. I wanted it to be Blackberry

[–] Muffi@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago

Hell yes! Best smartphone I have had is my current Motorola, and it was surprisingly cheap too. Would love to put Graphene on it.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Moto g15 (2025) has a headphone jack. I don't know why their phones aren't more popular.

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