Seems like trading one shitty situation for another, UK's government is fucked too, isn't it?
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I mean, you don't just get shot on the street legally, and we don't have ICE (yet), and not everything is a complete scam... But maybe in 20 years we'll be there. Hopefully the UK takes a different route, and I doubt the "infrastructure" is there to go full "legal slavery and for profit prisons" British MAGA to begin with.
You say that, but there's stuff like Brexit and now this age verification bullshit: I'm not convinced Britain is that far behind.
No dude, you have IP cameras rolled out alread, you're primed for the AI surveillance state by 2029. You're also just as deep in Israel's blackmail book and they probably have most of your state secrets (which is why the prosecutions, they don't care about the kids). Less violent, same destination.
Well that's at least what the right wing media wants you to believe.
Actually things are looking pretty good for the UK. Even Reform seems to have peaked in voter share and is on the way down. The most recent by-election is a race between greens and labour with Reform nowhere near those two.
There's a subreeddit "GoodNewsUK" which is a pretty good reality check.
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Like most US folks, I wish I had job flexibility and the money to just up and emigrate. Alas most have no choice but to stay.
I gave up my career and started over in something entirely different at a paltry salary, but I got out.
I totally understand your decision, but historically emigration is FILLED with stories of even professionals like doctors and engineers needing to accept very low paid wage work and re-credentialing in exchange for a longer term reset in a better country.
Again, I absolutely get it - but that's not the same thing as "no choice".
You still have to have the money to move, be healthy enough to be accepted by the new country, etc. For many many people there is no choice. None. Often those that need it most.
Not blaming anyone that has the agency to leave. But it is what it is.
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I know people who's parents immigrated to the US from Mexico. Their parents worked under-the-table jobs and hard blue collar jobs so their children could have a better life than them. Those same children are grown up now and applying for Mexican citizenship just in case.
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Brexit is a deal breaker for me. Any thoughts I've ever had about moving to UK for any reason went out the window when Brexit happened.
Plus they're only half a step behind on the bigotry, surveillance, and fascism anyway.
They have always been fascist and they are way ahead in laws restricting rights.
I think the guy that was pretending to be pro-genocide and watching his friends be arrested for protesting Israel about summed it up for me. Genocide okay, anti-genocide not okay in the UK.
I think though they are less racist. They have that going for them.
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Waiting for Joanne Rowling to have a Kirk moment.
Any time now.
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Having lived in Britain during the time of the Referendum and seen all of that shitshow first hand, I would say that Brexit is the product of British Politics having been taken over by the local version of MAGA (so, less loud and obnoxious, more posh sleaze).
This was to the point that they even had a Trump lookalike called Boris Johnson.
You know the US is a real shthole when people decide to move to the UK, which also is a shthole lol
I left the US for the UK well before Trump 1 and am still here. I can confidently assure you that you have no idea what you're talking about.
While it's far from perfect (nowhere is), our quality of life here is far better, and interactions with the authorities and law enforcement are far less brutal than they were in the US. And people here are friendlier. But then, I'm not living in London, which is crawling with driven, greedy assholes.
The problem with getting your info from headlines is that you don't know which sources are serving an agenda rather than reporting actual news. One thing that is wrong with the UK is that its media is just as fucked as that in the US. With the exception of a few publications (the wishy-washy LibDem Guardian, the conservative contrarian Private Eye), it's all billionaire's bullshit. And 90% of podcasters are semiliterate knobheads who just make shit up.
Having said all that, it does rain a lot, and despite massive gains over the past few decades, the food still could do with further improvement. But when I return to the US for visits, even in progressive bubbles where my friends and family live, I'm always glad to come back here. Especially when the Greens just decisibely defeated Farage in a by-election and made Starmer look like the wanker that he is.
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Why the fuck would anyone want to go to the UK? It is Trumpland, but with a accent.
Because most Americans can only speak English. And Australia is really far away.
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It's somewhat telling that you comment implies that everyone else has an accent and you don't :)
Having lived there, I agree that Britain is the most Fascist nation in Europe after Belarous and Russia, though theirs is the Posh Aristocratic version, so it's not as loud and obvious as "strongman" Fascism.
We haven't gone anywhere near being Trump land yet. And the Trump party (Reform) just got wrecked in an election yesterday.
You seem to somehow have missed the whole Brexit shitshow, including the Tory party becoming openly Anti-Immigrant, Racist and ultra-nationalist with massive national delusions of grandeur (made oh so painfully obvious when the pranced into the EU exit negotiation loudly proclaiming they held all the cards, ultimatilly showing that they did not and not getting the things they wanted the most).
(And lets not forget Britain's very own version of Trump: Boris Johnson)
You also seem to have missed the insane Civil Society Surveillance levels as disclosed in the Snowden Revelations and the recent legislation forcing Britons to ID themselves on the Internet, which is now being further tightenned with proposed restrictions to VPN use.
And lets not forget the anti-Demonstration legislation of the last decade as well as the anti-Terrorism legislation and how it was recently used to arrest anti-Genocide demonstrators as "Terrorism Supporters".
This is not normal in Democracy.
I've lived in multiple countries in Europe, including Britain, and in my view the UK is the most Fascist country in Europe after Belarous and Russia, it's just that British politicians don't play the loud and obnoxious strongman role like Trump or Orban, they play the posh vaguelly aristocratic type who rather than fight the Justice System subverts it to make it a tool to punish those of the riff-raff who are a bit more uppity, hence things like using anti-Terrorism legislation to crack down on those who demonstrate against His Majesty's Government's active support of Genocide.
Granted, given how far the Overtoon Window is to the Right in Britain, I can understand that whilst those outside see the present day Tories as a Far-Right party, for those inside that kind of politics is now so normalized that it's hard for most to recognize just how Far-Right the present day Tories are both in broader European terms and even in historical British terms, so they only see the even-more-Far-Right insane nutters of Reform as Far-Right.
Mind you in my experience the shift to and normalization of the Far-Right is one of the things Britain is ahead of the rest of Europe in: I'm seing happening were I am now the kind of thing I saw happen in Britain over a decade ago.
Ironically the only reform supporter I encountered is my brother who now lives in Australia.
He doesn't like immigrants, we're English.. .. umm
Luckily Americans don't speak any foreign languages so rest of Europe is safe.
The ones who can afford to move are the ones that statistically be more likely to speak more than one language. Learning German myself to add to my pile.
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Or gets the ones who do speak at least one foreign language, which aren't going to be the close-minded kind that thinks everything that matters starts and stops with America, so that's also good.
This is actually pretty funny. "Who speaks my language and where can i go?"
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feking imigints takin er jerbs
And because this is the Internet /s
Well I did immigrate here like five years ago. But I kept my US job. I've just become a weird hermit. It's great.
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Coming back home eh?
I'm not sure that would actually be a step in the right direction.
They've been showing their ass a lot lately.
Trust me the Americans leaving the country are not the Trumpers. Now is the time to steal the brain drain for yourself.
Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the original comment is talking about how the UK is pretty fascist and dystopian as well.
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They're gonna be disappointed when british police arrests them for wrongthink on twitter
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Why UK though? They want to be in the next populist shit hole?
They speak English in populist shit hole?
I can tell you, Americans who immigrate to Canada bring the stupid with them. It's like, "nice country, glad I moved here, how can we fuck it up like the USA?"
Imagine.
USonians immigrating into the UK.
Let's hope they respect the tea.
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Lolz. The UK? The one that's about to install the Reform Party?
You idiots. You imbeciles. You're just rats jumping from one sinking ship onto another.
Reform are an absolute joke at the moment, from my understanding. I doubt they will be winning an election any time soon.
Currently polling has Reform at a +112 seat majority.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2026
Approval polling has Reform as the predominant choice.
It does seem to be a downward trajectory at least though. Let me cling to a little hope please :P. Perhaps the debates will swing it in Polanski's favour; he is the only one who lays out a reasonable plan for working folks.
I hope the wider British public wakes up before the election. But, pretty much all of the mainstream media encourages their base instincts to blame immigrants at some level, rather than the wealthy. They are caught in a propaganda loop. Some of that influence is obvious (The Mail), some of it is very subtle (BBC, TheGuardian - editorship).
But I'm not overly optimistic. It took them way too long to realise the Tory leopards were eating their faces.
Americans coming over here is quite laughable. Good luck guys, you'd be better off somewhere that has a relatively young democracy and/or dictatorship in living memory (Germany and Spain look pretty good from where I'm sitting - but even Germany is a little bit O.o).
It does seem to be a downward trajectory at least though.
They're off their peak, as they're being forced to try and govern in the smattering of local elections they've already won. Also, Reform is getting larded up with Tory and New Labour refugees. The joke I've heard is "this may be the first boat to get sunk by the rats jumping on board".
I hope the wider British public wakes up before the election.
The public is constantly being "woken up" by a hysterical national media. It is, if anything, too awake. Like a man on a coke bender who hasn't slept in days. They're incapable of supporting any kind of moderate liberal campaign for fear of these candidates being too nice to Muslims or Gays or KGB agents or pedophiles.
you’d be better off somewhere that has a relatively young democracy and/or dictatorship in living memory (Germany and Spain look pretty good from where I’m sitting - but even Germany is a little bit O.o).
Germany is absolutely fucked. The AfD is polling on par with Reform, atm.
Spain is caught between a dozen different rocks and hard places. I'd say they at least have some nice HSR, but two derailments in as many months is fucking bleak. All of Europe is once again staring down the barrel of "Oops, all out of money", thanks to their inability to tax billionaires or nationalize critical industries. It's going to be a repeat of 2010 if the US economy repeats 2008.
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Where are all the racists who claim that they aren't racist for wanting to deport black and brown people? You know? All those reform voters who insist its not a race thing? Why arent they kicking off about all of the americans trying to come over?
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