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Movim - An open-source, federated and encrypted Text Chat & Video Call (w/ screenshare!) platform made in France since 2010 (movim.eu)
submitted 22 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) by ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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It's quite an impressive little app. Under the hood, it's an advanced XMPP client that has:

  • Excellent text chats with file upload support, including solid optional encryption (OMEMO, based on Signal's encryption but modified to be compatible with federation)
  • Group voice/video calls with screensharing (must use a chromium based browser to screenshare an app's audio at the moment)
  • A neat integrated blogging feature for communities & individuals
  • a fun built-in paint program to draw stuff into the chat
  • Full working and proven federation thanks to the XMPP back-end, which allows it to scale up reliably and easily self-host (XMPP is very lightweight).
  • Uses the AGPL license, ensuring that cropos won't be able to take it over. It'll be community-owned forever.

In message-mode, it looks fairly similar to Discord:

If you're curious if it'd work as a Discord replacement, it's still missing Discord-like servers with collections of rooms in them, as well as drop-in voice rooms. However, the developer is actively working on implementing those features, with the server w/rooms part likely to be implemented within the next few weeks. They already posted what it looks like in the development branch:

To stay updated on its progress, the !xmpp@slrpnk.net community pretty reliably posts news about it.

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[โ€“] phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Forked from conversation. Are yurpoors this shameless??

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

While there are forks of conversations (Cheagram & Monocles), Movim is not a fork, AFAIK. Did you read it was somewhere?

[โ€“] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

vim you say?

[โ€“] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Chromium

Aight imma head out.

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Only if you need to screenshare with audio! And only because that feature was just implemented (Firefox uses a different mechanism to screenshare with audio, and likely requires its own implementation). Movim works fine otherwise in Firefox or Librewolf.

And remember, Discord itself is just an Electron app, which is literally just a stripped down Chromium browser without the browser controls, but is also itself spyware. Running Movim in a de-googled chromium is a huge step up, and running it in Firefox even more so. I think it's important not to make perfect be the enemy of good, in this case :)

[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

a fun built-in paint program to draw stuff into the chat

The main purpose is actually to easily annotate image uploads ๐Ÿ˜…

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 6 points 21 hours ago

Ah, good to know! :p

[โ€“] kurcatovium@piefed.social 7 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

Any idea if it's forever meant to be PWA or is there a chance for propper android/linux app?
I know it's possible to use apps like Conversation or Dino, but how does that work with those extra movim bits apart base xmpp?

[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 17 hours ago

Due to the architecture of Movim with parts of it running on the server a "proper" app wouldn't make much sense. On the plus side this also means it is very lightweight in the browser, unlike JS heavy browser apps or Electron wrappers.

But since Movim is fully XMPP standard compliant, you can use a native XMPP Android app like Monocles Chat with the same account and have most features included in it as well.

[โ€“] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It's technically possible that native Movim apps could be built in the future, but it'd probably be a bit too much for the dev to tackle without additional help.

The other clients can interact with each other without any special actions, similar to how Lemmy and Piefed users can. And you can use 1 XMPP account and log into any client, and it will retain your contacts and message history across them all. However:

  • A Conversations user wouldn't be able to join any group audio/video calls with Movim/Dino users, since it can only do 1-on-1 calls at the moment. It could still call individual Movim/Dino users with video.
  • Dino is fully compatible with Movim's group audio/video calls, but AFAIK it cannot initiate screensharing yet.

If a Conversations user wanted to message a user currently using Movim, they would just need to add their username as a contact (Something@YourXMPPhost[.]com, just like Lemmy works), and the Movim user would get a notification just like they would if it'd come from a Movim user, and they can begin chatting or initiate a 1-on-1 call.

[โ€“] natecox@programming.dev 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

PWA > App.

[โ€“] kurcatovium@piefed.social 5 points 21 hours ago

Well, yes and no. My phone has problem with most PWA though, kinda sucks.

[โ€“] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I tried movim a few months ago, had to drop it due to the lack of apps

[โ€“] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

What would you need apps for? PWAs and pinned browser tabs work just the same. And also you can just use any other xmpp app with your Movim account.

[โ€“] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I was looking for a Whatsapp/Telegram replacement to use with my girlfriend. Apps are needed to make calls. I ended up using DeltaChat

https://piefed.zip/c/privacy/p/763572/looking-for-a-federated-alternative-to-signal-as-they-might-have-to-comply-with-chatcontro

From that post

One issue I noted is that creating private groups is basically creating a chatroom on the server. Monocles will hide that and just create the room with a random name, but movim.eu was asking for a name for the room, that needed to be unique for the server. Seems like there was an initiative to simplify that, but the last update was in 2020: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Easy_Group_Chats

  • Also, even though calls would show up on the Android device when locked, when accepting the calls they would not go through and not connect, making this another non working option.
[โ€“] xep@discuss.online 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I really liked DeltaChat also but had difficulty convincing others to use it. Somehow it makes me happy to hear that you've adopted it!

[โ€“] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

The very easy onboarding really helps!