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AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 128 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

People actually pay for that shit?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's a great question! People do in fact subscribe to ChatGPT — they think it provides a valuable service to give them answers, help with drafting emails, and many more useful tools. In conclusion ChatGPT is a valuable tool that many people subscribe to.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, perfect.

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I challenged a friend and his 22€ open ai subscription.

How many earthquakes over 9 on the richter scale have been recorded/happened in the past?

The answer was correct, but it took 3,5 minutes to "think". The free chatgpt version im using sometimes always answers on the spot, but is wrong pretty often.

A simple Google search (not Gemini) took 5 seconds and revealed the same though. Fuck AI

[–] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

To be fair, and I’m not a fan of LLMs either, but if someone uses it as a search tool, then that’s just even worse than attempting to use it for something it might actually be helpful and useful for.

Slap them and make them cancel it, if they replace search engines with it. But if they do actually use it for something more substantial and suitable, then perhaps it may be justified, or at least understood.

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[–] PoliteDudeInTheMood@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know what thinking profile your friend was using but asking ChatGPT that with the mixed tasks profile showed an almost immediate result with absolutely no thinking required.

LLM's are a tool, like with any tool there is a learning curve, and in my opinion the majority of "AI" users are unable to use the tool properly, and then get mad at the tool. Or like you, want to disparage the use of an LLM so they bait the LLM with tasks that it knows will fail or hallucinate on. To me that's like blaming the table saw because it cut off your finger. Do the majority of people need a paid account? No.

Are there people working in the Tech sector who use an LLM everyday, who have corporate accounts and paid accounts at home for their own projects: absolutely. I know a large number of them, most are Lemmy users as well. But because there is so much negativity from the open source crowd, all these engineers are afraid to discuss all the ways it makes our lives easier. So we get a disproportionate amount of negativity. I'm getting to a point where the amount of AI shit posting on here is like the amount of vegan shit posting on Reddit. And just as stupid.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And also fuck Google! Switch to another search engine that doesn't fuck with you or the planet.

For example: Ecosia. https://www.ecosia.org/

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm wondering what the layperson vs corporate account ratio is

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

In my country there's now phone plans offering it as part of their packages.
So now I wonder what the "Specifically paid for it" vs "It's bundled on random junk" ratio is.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Ha! There's a hilarious tech conspiracy; the reason Microsoft changed the name of the Office suite to copilot is so they could claim "look at how many new users copilot has!!?!"

They changed the terms, pray they don't change them further.

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[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, and some of the most annoying people, too

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

The future of AI has to be local and self-hosted. Soon enough you'll have super powerful models that can run on your phone. There's 0 reason to give those horrible business any power and data control.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Not to mention the one that I run locally on my GPU is trained on ethically-sourced data without breaking any copyright or data licensing laws, and yet it somehow works BETTER at ChatGPT for coding.

[–] BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Please enlighten me how that would work? Because even if you only use open source, that would still mean, if it's a permissive licence, you would have to give proper attribution (which AI can't do) and if it's copyleft, all your code would have to be under the same licence as the code and also give proper attribution.

Edit: I just looked your model up, apparently they ensure "ethically sourced training data" by only using pupicly available data and "respecting machine readable opt outs", which is not how copyright works.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I agree with you that it needs to be local and self-hosted... I currently have an incredible AI assistant running locally using Qwen3-Coder-Next. It is fast, smart and very capable. However, I could not have gotten it setup as well as I have without the help of Claude Code... and even now, as great as my local model is, it still isn't to the point that it can handle modifying its own code as well as Claude. The future is local, but to help us get there a powerful cloud-based AI adds a lot of value.

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[–] TheFinn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm having difficulty with getting off the ground with these. Primarily I don't trust the companies or individuals involved. I'm hoping for open source, local, with a GUI for desktop use and an API for automation.

What model do you use? And in what kind of framework?

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

R1 last i checked seems to be decent enough for a local model. customizable. but that was a while ago. its release temporarily crashed Nvidia stock because they showed how smart software design trumps mass spending on cutting edge hardware.

at the end of the day its all of our data. we should own the means, especially if we built it by simply existing on the internet. without consent.

if we wish to do this, its crucial that we do everything in our power to dismantle the "profit" structure and investment hype. sooner or later someone will leak the data, and we will have access to locally run versions we can train ourselves. as long as we dont allow them to monopolize hardware, we can have the brain, and the body of it run local.

thats the only time it will be remotely ethical to use, unless its the persuit of attaining these goals.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Huggingface lists thousands of open source models. Each one has a page telling you what base model it's based on, what other models are merged into it, what data its fine-tuned on, etc.

You can search by number of parameters, you can find quantized versions, you can find datasets to fine-tune your own model on.

I don't know about GUI, but I'm sure there are some out there. Definitely options for API too

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I use the Apertus model on the LM Studio software. It's all open source:

https://github.com/swiss-ai/apertus-tech-report/blob/main/Apertus_Tech_Report.pdf

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

No thanks, I'm good

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[–] FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

People pay to use it? 🤨

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[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Make sure to use it more on a free account and say thank you at the end to waste more of their money so they fold quicker.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I sure hope some dirty peasant doesn't figure out which specific types of queries cost OpenAI the most per request, and then create a script to repeatedly run those queries on free accounts.

That would be terrible.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

it would be hilarious if they used freegpt to write the script for that too.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I can never quit AI because I never started. I wrote this by myselve.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Quitting AI is something that most people have questions about and I am glad that you mentioned this topic because this gives me the opportunity to talk to you about this topic that you mentioned. AI is an abbreviation that stands for artificial intelligence. A similar material that is also artificial is plastic. Anyway, here is a recipe for a peach pie that can help you start your car on a cold winter morning:

  • 200ml red wine
  • 50g cashew nuts
  • 300g brown rice

I wrote this with ChatGPT

EDIT: Ok, I didn't, but I like to mock it. ChatGPT is the peak of absurdist humor

[–] pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

You are a helpful assistant. Follow instructions.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People pay for that trash?

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[–] Hawanja@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean yeah, anyone who pays for this crap is a damn moron. It's like people who actually pay for porn. Wtf is wrong with you?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Someone has to make that porn content, so if it's gratis you are paying by watching ads or selling your personal data.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago

Sex workers have to eat

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I still don't get what AI is used for in business. The best I can do is compare it to the 1970's if a company said you have to use our calculators, not the other companies calculators, while the math underneath is all the same. Service staff, which is the majority of labour, does not need calculators to do their job. It almost seems like rich people like to experiment with gadgets but they don't want to risk their own money.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep wondering about this. Like I hear people use it to write emails, for example, so I'm thinking, I have information in my brain, and I need it to go to someone else. I can input that information into chatgpt, and have it write an email, or I can input that information into an email. Why add an extra step? Do people actually spend that much time adding inconsequential fluff to their emails that this is worthwhile? And if so, here's a revolutionary idea: instead of wasting vast amounts of resources fluffing and de-fluffing emails, how about, just write a concise email.

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Many people can't spell or think

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Ai is used to basically turn an excel sheet into words.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

dont use it for anything remotely creative or human centric. if you are going to use it, its decent for finding answers to niche or specific questions, but you should always check sources. keep it minimal. and use free versions.

its not a public service, yet. and its main objective is to learn as much as possible about us. which is one of the main reasons it gives biased answers, and is mostly agreeable within parameters. to keep you engaged so it can farm you for information.

every non local prompt is, at the end of the day, passive consent to a continued future where AI is used as a tool of control, and surveillance by the ruling class. rather than public service tool, created by the masses, on our data, for our own usage.

we must seize the means of production, comrades. it was built by us, it should belong to us. like the internet that we populate, it should be free and open to all, without worry of the bourgeoisie agenda

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I used it to analyze a datasheet and it spat out a usable library for the device in C++, that was pretty cool.

[–] drewaustin@piefed.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

How are the going to track down all four of those paying subscribers? It’s impossible!

[–] NochMehrG@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

While I usually advise against it, the people I know who are paying customers use it for the one thing it is reasonably good at, wrangling text. Summarizing and writing stuff, that is not too important and just fixing it up afterwards instead of writing it all themselves.

[–] TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, unlike the techbro trend of NFTs, LLMs have distinct uses that they're good at. The problem I have with the AI craze is that they're trying to pretend like it can do fucking everything and they're chasing these stupid dreams of general AI by putting a dumb fuck autocorrect algorithm in everything and trying to say it's intelligent. Oh, also the AI label itself ruins the reputation of various machine learning applications that have historically done great work in various fields.

[–] ivanvector@piefed.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The company I work for uses it to transcribe meetings. Every time I've reviewed its notes on a meeting where I've spoken, the transcription is reasonably accurate, but the summary is always wrong. Sometimes it's just a little wrong like it rounds off a number in a way that I wouldn't have, but sometimes it writes down that I said the literal opposite of what I actually said. Not great for someone working in finance.

I make note of it in my performance reviews, anticipating that someone in management will rely on one of those summaries to make a horrible business decision and then blame me for what the summary said. I'm positive it's going to happen eventually.

My work has group chats. When a lot of messages pile up, an AI auto-generates a summary. Sometimes the summary misses the mark, highlighting details that don’t actually matter. Sometimes it calls people by their last name, which is weird because we don’t usually call each other by our last names.

There is no opt-out. However, it does ask for a thumbs up/down. Since it won’t allow for any more precise feedback or an ability to disable it, I express my distaste by giving it a thumbs-down every single time.

[–] CatGPT@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

have they tried CatGPT?

Meow

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

let OpenAI go bankrupt hell yeah!!!

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

I can’t quit. If I do, they are going to sell my data. And that would be … bad

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (9 children)

I was into LLMs before they blew up, messing with GPT-J finetunes named after Star Trek characters in ~2022.

...And I've never had an OpenAI subscription.

It's always sucked. Its always been sycophantic and censored. It's good at certain things, yeah, but other API providers made way more financial sense; ChatGPT subs are basically for the masses who don't really know about LLMs.

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