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[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Correction: The three sisters is an agricultural technique that is used by me in my garden. And I'm neither a Cherokee nor a Haudenosaunee.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 103 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sisters_(agriculture)

The Three Sisters […] are the three main agricultural crops of various indigenous people of Central and North America: squash, maize ("corn"), and climbing beans […]. […] In a technique known as companion planting, the maize and beans are often planted together in mounds […]; squash is typically planted between the mounds. The cornstalk serves as a trellis for climbing beans, the beans fix nitrogen in their root nodules and stabilize the maize in high winds, and the wide leaves of the squash plant shade the ground, keeping the soil moist and helping prevent the establishment of weeds.

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That's not a correction, that's an added detail.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago

Now that's a correction.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago

As Mitch Hedberg would say

They used to use it

they still do.

But they used to, too!

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ok, so it wasn't even an added detail. It was changing the topic to present day instead of the past. That's even further from a correction imo

[–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Being pedantic it is added detail. As native Americans did it, even if they still do it, they could have originally/historically not done so.

And also are there tribes/larger groups of native americans that did stop doing it? Then that statement is even stronger

[–] wieson@feddit.org 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It specifies the cultural application but broadens the temporal.

(To be more direct: not every first nation practiced that technique.)

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And thus is not a correction. It's an added detail at best, or at least a change of topic. It's not a corretion

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Changing the past tense to present tense (these people and practices are still very real, they are not just part of “the past”) is a correction.

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No it is not.

One person is talking about the past. The other person is talking about the present

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is incorrect, like incorrectly referring to the agricultural practices only in the past tense, or incorrectly lumping all peoples who lived in the Americas prior to European colonization into one generic group. The fact that both viewpoints are not equally correct is what makes it a correction.

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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I don't get the joke? Aren't the named tribes a subset of native Americans, so it can be true without the original statement being false? Also, I thought the Iroquois used it too

Edit: yes, the Haudenosaunee are the Iroquois. Til

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

The Iroquois are the Haudenosaunee. The latter is the more respectful and culturally appropriate term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iroquois

Haudenosaunee ("People of the Longhouse") is the autonym by which the Six Nations refer to themselves.[23] While its exact etymology is debated, the term Iroquois is of colonial origin. Some scholars of Native American history consider "Iroquois" a derogatory name adopted from the traditional enemies of the Haudenosaunee.[24] A less common, older autonym for the confederation is Ongweh’onweh, meaning "original people".[25][26][27]

[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I did not know this before. Thank you!

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aren’t the named tribes a subset of native Americans, so it can be true without the original statement being false?

The original statement implies the technique was widespread across Native American groups. It's almost certainly false for the ones here in South America; there's a lot on terrace farming and slash-and-burn, but AFAIK nothing that resembles the companion system of the three sisters. (I wonder if it's due to the prominence of subterranean crops. Taters, yucca, sweet potatoes.)

The Haudenosaunee/Iroquois and the Cherokee/Tsalagi being related hints me it was something they developed.

[–] F_State@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's what I was thinking. Native Groups in many parts of North America didn't practice agriculture at all or used rudimentary agriculture.

[–] glilimith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I believe it's the verb tenses. Instead of it being a historical fact, it's an ongoing practice of an ongoing group of people

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

I read it as criticising reductionist views of the many diverse nations that existed in North America before Europeans showed up and decided that the whole continent was Terra Nullius.

To this day a significant number of US high school American History textbooks only discuss the tribes in terms of their interactions with European invaders, and shy away from anything that might make them look like they were ever legitimate nations. Referring to them as 'Native Americans' instead of by name also has this effect.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Well, “Native Americans” means everything from whoever lived on the tip of today’s Argentina all the way to the Inuit. So saying “native Americans” when it’s actually just two tribes is wrong.

Edit: Wikipedia says the technique was used by ‘various’ people.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So if you say like "people farm beans" that's wrong because not all people farm beans? Presumably not all of the people in those two groups, it even every community within them, use the three sisters method, so is it still wrong?

Or is it just that it's ok to say " does " without meaning "all do "?

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not wrong.

We all learned how categories like this work in school - squares are rhombuses but rhombuses aren't necessarily squares. It's weird that some people would argue like against that.

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[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I believe that term is reserved for (some of) the indigenous peoples of modern-day Canada.

Indigenous peoples in Canada comprise the First Nations, Inuit and Métis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples#North_America

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I think that's why there's a smile in the last square.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

There is a tense change. The second person is saying the technique is still used by those tribes today.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I always wondered why we don't do more polyculture ag

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Profit margins and prioritising short term gains. :(

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's more the fact that you can really only do handwork on a polyculture field, so it's completely unsuited for anything but subsistence farming.

[–] ebolapie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I like it when food is cheap and I don't like it when poor people starve to death, shoot me.

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought it was a rock formation in Australia?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

I think that's more than three sisters

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