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[โ€“] AnonyMouse_Box@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Kind of misses the point, UK is focused on trying to fix the shit show that is Westminster and Whitehall, the very people who pinned the blame for everything on the EU for 40 years after unilaterally signing us up for their own business interests. EU is not our concern right now, we have bigger problems.

[โ€“] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago

I think the UK could eventually rejoin the EU but it's not going to happen soon. Brexiteers are probably a minority of the British population now (Brexiteers tend to be older, and some of those voters have passed away since the Brexit referendum). But the pro-Brexit camp has wealthy backers who will kick up a fuss.

Maybe what will happen is more indecision and half measures for the next 10 or 20 years, perhaps followed by another referendum that would take us back into the EU.

As for terms, it depends on what the EU would insist. Perhaps they would insist upon the UK adopting the Euro.

[โ€“] leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone 11 points 15 hours ago

Unofficially via trade agreements and defence agreements, yes - and that process is already underway. Officially as a full official member - not for at least a generation. The country needs its English Thatcherite Gen Xers - the flag shaggers and mini-roundabout painters - to die off before that can happen.

And to be honest, given how much fucking stress this country caused the EU and also given we're now about as powerful as a weak sneeze I'm hard pressed to think of a reason why they'd even want us back.

[โ€“] Caesium@lemmy.wtf 0 points 6 hours ago

I doubt it will happen, but it would be a strong political gesture - a clear signal to those hoping to undermine our unity and the EU as a whole.

[โ€“] GandalftheBlack@feddit.org 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I would love it, but I don't hold out hope. If we did, I would fully expect us to make plenty of concessions and agree to extra restrictions to stop us leaving the next time a prime minister wants to appease the eurosceptics. But I think what's much more likely is continued re-integration into EU/European networks and systems from outside the EU at a higher cost than before. It might be humiliating to nationalists, but at the end of the day our future is bound to that of the rest of Europe and working together is a matter of survival, not principle.

[โ€“] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't see the EU allowing the UK to keep the pound if they rejoin which at present is a complete deal-breaker even for most remain voters.

[โ€“] yuumei@feddit.uk 18 points 23 hours ago

I would vote for it. Drop the pound just to spite the boomers who pulled the ladder up.

I doubt it. Most "Reform-types" won't accept Brexit wasn't a good thing for the common person.

As they say; it's easier to trick someone than to convince them they've been tricked.

[โ€“] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More likely, not rejoining, but rejoining in all but name by making basically the same trade deals

This time with zero power to veto any of them, the worst of both worlds

[โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

Northern Ireland is still in the customs union, just with zero democratic representation and annoying customs forms when trying to trade with the mainland.

Granted, I like it because it means we are strategically important. A business here can do business with both the UK and the EU. We also had the UK's discounted tariffs for the USA. We're kind of a funny special economic zone.

[โ€“] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

As a unitedstatesian, I was genuinely baffled by Brexit - particularly the political establishmentโ€™s insistence on following the referendum despite the significant numbers of people who stated it was a protest vote, and all the analysis that said it would be rather economically catastrophic.

But nope: See that brick wall? Letโ€™s floor it and hope for the best, wcgw?

[โ€“] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 2 points 6 hours ago

The Brexit phenomenon is very similar to the Trump phenomenon. Populist, anti-immigrant, nationalist sentiment.

[โ€“] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

The best of democracy - if people choose to abolish democracy it and appoint a totalitarian cult leader for life - it would be undemocratic to prevent the will of the people.

Exactly why "protest votes" are such a monumentally stupid idea. In a referendum, people vote for what outcome the people want, and the people will get what they voted for. Do they think the ballot box is supposed to be able to tell who genuinely wanted to leave the EU and who was just being a cheeky asshole?

[โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mum voted brexit and she regrets it. She says such an issue shouldn't have been put to a refurrendum as the average person didn't know what the EU was, so they just had to be lied to for a few months.

[โ€“] Lemming421@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you donโ€™t know, vote to keep the status quo. Or donโ€™t vote. What the fuck did she think she was doing?

Jesus, these people.

[โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

She thought the EU was just unnecessary bureaucracy

[โ€“] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

It is, no doubt. But she failed to see the benefits that came with it. It's not pick and choose, you get the benefits in exchange for also taking the downsides.

[โ€“] Lemming421@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I guess she was right that it should never have been put to referendum if thatโ€™s what the average person thought.

I agree - thereโ€™s multiple very thorough levels of stupid at play with regards to Brexit

[โ€“] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If it is it's probaly a long way down the line. The current poll leading right wing party has a very strong eurosceptic streak to it (well all the right wing parties do) and as long as they're around in any capacity it will be hard to get that through. There's the fact I think the topic is just a massive hot potato too. The political process that led up to brexit and the brexot process itself was a fucking mess and I think there is a level of national exhaustion over it despite polling long showing that everyone has worked out brexit was a terrible idea/ most the folks who voted for brexit are dead.

You'll see some closer relationship being forged in the form of some sort of trade deal or some kind of Norway like situation much sooner, indeed o think the current labour government are angling for something like that but not sure of the details.

[โ€“] flamingos@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I actually think full membership is pretty unlikely, at least in the short to medium term. Well, unless we get a Lib Dem majority government (not going to happen). The far-right hate the EU because their brains have been cooked on Telegraph and Murdoch slop and the left is flirting with MMT, something the fiscal rules of the Lisbon treaty prohibits.

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Even with a LibDem majority government I don't think it would be a currency union. They're rejoiners for sure, but I think it's to re-establish what was lost. Not go further.

[โ€“] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

The keep your own currency deal and stay out of Schengen permission was only ever for existing members. It isn't open to new joiners. Neither is the membership fee rebate, which was only ever for us.

Not going further is a power we used to have, but lost permanently when we left.

[โ€“] jondale@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the EU would need some sort of 'Brenter' poll first, to see if the spoilt brat of the family would be welcomed back, what with all our needy requirements about keeping our own currency etc. I can't see it personally for a long time as there's still that resistance to change things that are viewed as 'ours' and changing them to something viewed as 'theirs'. We never really fully committed to it the first time. Hopefully we'll see the need to join the 'middle powers' in some kind of alliance though.

[โ€“] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 day ago

I think most would be okay if they didn't get preferred treatment. Gotta adopt the Euro. No Schengen opt out. Etc. Years long process just like everyone.

We all know it wouldn't happen anyhow.

[โ€“] wewbull@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but we'll be have a customs union first with a services agreement as well.

I don't see us taking the Euro. I just don't think anyone wants to surrender economic policy to the ECB, and the last time we tried to go through the ERM process it ended very badly. The GBP is too heavily traded in it's own right to maintain the exchange rates in a tight enough band for long enough.

[โ€“] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't see any benefit for the EU for services, so I don't think they'll agree to it without full membership of the single market and the four freedoms.

[โ€“] vpol@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

I hope so. At least economic/defence/no_border part of the union.

[โ€“] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is this related to buying european goods and services?

[โ€“] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It affects how easy it is for people in one European country to purchase goods from another European country. It also affects how aligned the regulatory framework of the UK is with the rest of Europe, which impacts the types of goods and services that get made/sold there

You can always expand to that sort of reasoning. There is a difference between "European news vaguely related to trade" and "discussing european goods and services".

This is a problem in this community, see also https://szmer.info/post/11377754/13171777 France buying aircraft carrier? It's an european alternative! /s

Shouldnโ€™t you be asking the EU for the terms? Iโ€™m not sure they want them back, not with Garage as the next PM.

[โ€“] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 0 points 16 hours ago

We will rejoin as master and make you all eat jellied eels.