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TLDR: I love sideloaded apps and they r a godsend

So I’ve been using sideloaded yt and Spotify and now I can NEVER go back. Makes me feel like a PEASANT if I do.

So a couple weeks ago I went on a 4 hour drive and sadly my sidestore time expired and I couldn’t renew due to ap ID it so I had to wait a week and by the time I would drive another 4 hours back. And let me tell you FREE SPOTIFY SUCKS ASS. I can’t go back or scrub through the songs, I can only do 6 skips per hour and replay COUNTS AS THE 6, luckily I use a vpn which blocked other company ads but SPOTIFY HAS THEIR OWN DAMN STUPID ADS EVERY 3 SONGS. And I couldn’t add songs to queue by swiping and I had to tap on the three dots and add to queue which I can’t do while on the highway. And of course I can’t play a specific song, I can’t even decide whether I want shuffle or not. And I didn’t even wanna try yt with no playing off the app or while the phone is off.

It’s as if getting into sideloading, piracy, and modding made me feel true online freedom and I can’t wait or imagine the feeling I’m going to have when I start self hosting. I’m definitely going to donate to these projects due to the improvement in my life they contributed to.

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[–] B4DR0B0T@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All you need now is about 6TB of storage and you can have complete spotify library offline (see) Its not much, only about 15.42 million artists, 58.6 million albums and 256 million songs. Also see related torrent freak article (here)

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 91 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You shouldn't use the term sideloading to describe installing apps from alternative sources, that just makes it seem like it's some weird and different, possibly unintended thing. When it is an intended part of an open ecosystem.

[–] Steve@communick.news 33 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Agreed.
Alternative app stores aren't sideloading.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

When I think of sideloading, it's installing software without using an app store, because that's the name of the command in adb. You plug your phone into your computer, open a terminal, and do adb sideload path/to/my/app.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's nonsense. These people expect you to say "installing apps from outside the first-party app store" every time you refer to sideloading and suggest that somehow the word has a negative connotation and was made up by corpos to keep you in their silos, even though the word predates the concept altogether.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago

It's not sideloading, it's installing, just not from the play store.

[–] BiomedOtaku@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't call it " sideloading " calling it that just reinforces all the conditioning we have been given to believe that when anyone wants to install a software of their choosing on a device they paid for its called " side loading " its not all you did is install an app on your device and that's it.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 13 points 6 days ago

I agree with this. It's installing an app. Installing a program to a computer you own should never be considered "unofficial"!

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I call that ”installing software” on devices I really own, those with free/libre OS.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they used "installing software" no one would know WTF they were talking about.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a stinking elitist I live in a nice world where I don't have to care about what other people do.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And yet you cared enough to weigh in.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nothing is more elitist than arguing semantics on a fringe de la fringe platform.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

So you don't care but also simultaneously nothing is more important. Ok.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

It’s as if getting into sideloading, piracy, and modding made me feel true online freedom and I can’t wait or imagine the feeling I’m going to have when I start self hosting.

I finally put some time aside to do this recently for my music collection and it has been very satisfying to stream independently across all my devices. I can even setup user accounts for my friends to use.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 23 points 6 days ago

I love hardware that doesn't require sideloading. I bought the whole house, including the front door, and I will use the front door. If they don't allow me to use the front door, then I don't really own the house after all, do I, so what did I even pay for?

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I quit Spotify and started using internet radio. Once a month, instead of giving $20 to a corporate overlord, I donate it to my favorite indy radio station playing fresh songs. Not the same pop BS over and over. Unique music from talented local artists around the world.

It does take a bit more time and experimentation to find some great stations.

[–] kalpol@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

SomaFM is maybe the best thing to ever exist

[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ill just leave this here. WWOZ New Orleans. Guardians of the Groove.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

Thank you, we should probably have a community for this.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

It can be a very liberating feeling to only run the software you want and how you want to run it on your hardware.

Or you vsn just sync a microsd card. You dont listen to more than 1tb of music at stream quality.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

majority of the applications i use are installed via f-droid. I couldnt even use my phone if i lost them. For example the default camera is piece of shit that just turns the pictures black and doesnt even have good options, while the open camera has everything one could hope for.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you use Spotify, I'd pay for the subscription. If you don't want to pay for the subscription, I would download the music so that you have it on your phone.

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why would you give Spotify any money?

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I do not give them any money as I do not use their service in any form. However, there are a few reasons you may want to if you do use their services.

  1. If you enjoy the service it is indeed in your interest that it is profitable and keeps on working.
  2. You're saving yourself on installing on your phone a cracked application which likely contains some malware.
  3. If you dislike Spotify for what they do and how they behave, you're better off not using the service altogether.

And I mean, they do offer you a way to listen to music for free anyway, they just have you listen to some advertisement. It is a fair exchange in my opinion. The pricing of their subscription is also fair in my opinion, it's some 10-15€/month and you can listen to all the music you want all the time, that is about the price of a single disc. If you don't like the advertisement and don't want to pay to listen, I'd turn to Soulseek rather than trying to use their service for free.

I myself prefer to have my own music collection and to buy the music from musicians I like, but I do see the advantages of a service like Spotify and I feel it is pretty cool that they offer their huge catalogue for free to anyone in the world.

[–] Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As a musician, fuck Spotify, they pay next to nothing to the artists. Please pirate if Spotify is the only other option.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago

Pirate and put the saved subscription fees towards song and album purchases (from Bandcamp, for example) is the best way. It's the same with YouTube Premium - use a third party client to block the ads and save the subscription fee to donate to channels directly. It annoys me when people try to claim the moral high ground for paying subscription fees to big companies when they're actually just part of the problem.