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I have an old pc on which I run jellyfin and some other stuff. It's only connected through lan. I used to use window's remotedesktop to connect to it, but that stopped working.

Now I'm looking for a good remote desktop. Because it s tucked away in a corner, fysical acces to it is cumbersome.

My server runs mint with xfce. My laptop runs windows 11, because of work reasons.

I'm inclined to use something like anydesk, but I'm unsure how to trust that company.

Edit: I got rustdesk up and running and it's a good solution for my usecase. Thanks for all the tips and suggestions.

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[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 1 points 39 minutes ago

Depends exactly what you're doing on that old PC.

If you just need to connect for administration and the like, VNC is decent. It's my default.

If you want to watch videos or the like, I'd definitely suggest Sunlight and Moonlight. It's a streaming remote desktop that's meant for streaming gaming, and so it's really good at video and audio.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I like RustDesk. If you’re worried about connectivity, you can even run your own relay server.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Seconded rustdesk!

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

I initially misread your question as "What good is remote desktop software?" and I thought, "look at this person, humble bragging that they are fit enough to occasionally walk across the room.

I guess now I need to go exercise.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sunshine and Moonlight.

It is made for gaming, but can be used for remote desktop. I use it when my laptop cannot handle a Blender scene and I want to use my desktop. It also works good with Headscale (or Tailscale if you use that). You can enable end to end encryption too.

If you want a direct replacement for Anydesk, check out Rustdesk. It is FOSS, but does not have good reputation.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Fwiw I use a fork called Apollo because it enables a headless setup

[–] pipes@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

Sadly Windows-only last time I checked

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Where does rustdesk not have a good reputation? I see it being recommended regularly and also use it myself heavily. Never had issues or heard about issues (that I would attribute to reputation).

[–] Arkhive@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Something something something China bad. It’s a bit overblown, but there was some drama about the dev earlier in its lifespan. I think something to do with not all of its code being open source? Like the official servers were running a closed version or something. I’m definitely butchering the information. It’s good software and works as intended.

I personally use Sunshine and Moonlight, but not because I have any particular problem with RustDesk, just couldn’t get it working well, and Sunshine also works for in house game streaming if I want.

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

Ah ok, thanks for the clarification. In the end I also use Sunshine for game streaming, but for pure remote desktop access RustDesk is far nicer, since I can also quickly move files back and forth. RDP is even nicer in that regard, where I can remote-mount local devices.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)
[–] 2FortGaming@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

OP is used to Windows Remote Desktop SSH is a bit far from that, but still a good option

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I use RustDesk because it's good enough. It may not work for everything, but it is open source and has suited my needs.

I have it launch on boot in Mint and it works fine

[–] Lemmchen@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

+1 for RustDesk. Basically open-source de-shittified TeamViewer.

Exactly how I found it. Looking for open-source TeamViewer essentially.

Works very well for the tasks I throw at it. Hosting it yourself is easy as well

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

RustDesk really is fantastic. No shade to any of the other solutions suggested in this thread, but 99% of the time when someone needs remote desktop access, RustDesk is exactly what they need.

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed and you can self host the backend if you want.

Yeah I suppose I should have said what I've used it for but I think I've only really used it for Android, Linux, and I think I may have put it on Windows once, not sure. Overall I run into few circumstances I've ever needed to go the machine, usually it's tied to bios/driver issues on the laptop I use for a server, not Rust issues

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[–] Luckyfriend222@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago
[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

RDP (the same protocol Windows Remote Desktop uses) works fine on Linux. I'd suggest investigating why that suddenly stopped working for you.

For what it's worth Xrdp seems to work well on Linux for enabling a RDP Remote Desktop server.. I suspect you are / were(?) already using Xrdp and just need to figure out why it stopped working.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yes I was using xrdp, it is still installed and windows rdp can find it and connect. But once that happens, the applications crashes and shuts down...

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That's weird, maybe an update broke something? What I would maybe do is uninstall Xrdp (and maybe remove/rename the old config files just in case), then re-install and configure it. From there if it's still not working try to see what's showing up in the log files maybe.

I did notice that Xrdp requires some extra configuration to work properly with Linux Mint Cinnamon, you apparently need to create a .xsession file in the home folder of whichever user(s) you're trying to remote into. I'm not on Linux Mint myself but maybe searching around will give you some tips e.g. this seems like a good rundown https://gist.github.com/ParkWardRR/2ab9b5d41bbaceca8471d591755a1898

EDIT: You probably already know this from using it before but for RDP on Linux you'd need to remote into a user that is not already logged in.. it's not like in Windows when you can RDP into any user regardless if they're already logged in or not.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

For what it's worth Xrdp seems to work well on Linux

Even on Wayland?

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yup, been using Xrdp in a Debian + GNOME Wayland setup without issue.

I've also used GNOME's built in Remote Desktop (RDP) with Wayland. KDE's own RDP should work with Wayland too but I haven't tested that one yet.

[–] yamper@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

if you can afford the hardware, getting something dedicated like a JetKVM is nice because you don't have to wait for VNC software to boot. since it acts like a monitor and keyboard, you can even enter BIOS with it. JetKVM sells an extension board that you could hook up to your server motherboard's power buttons to turn it on/off too.

for fully software solutions, i like using apollo on the server and moonlight on the clients. it's built for game streaming, but it works for remote desktop too. i have apollo and moonlight installed on a bunch of my devices anyways so this saves me from installing an additional client most of the time.

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Nomachine with local & Wireguard access only.

I think Anydesk can be trusted as much as any company. They did notify users when a breach occurred a couple of years ago. By contrast Teamviewer was hacked and blamed their customer's "password reuse" for years before finally admitting they had a breach. The company cannot be trusted.

I use Anydesk occasionally to help friends but never leave it running if it's not actively in use.

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago

Sunshine and moonlight. Or just ssh if it's for administrative tasks.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I'd figure out why RDP stopped working. Sounds like something changed.

Anything else could be stymied by the same things that blocked RDP - firewall change, etc.

I've used other tools since before RDP even existed as Citrix Remote Desktop in the 90's... Frankly for LAN only there's little reason to consider anything else with Windows boxes unless you want remote management features like services, shares, etc. Even then I often just use RDP because it just works.

Edit: ah, I had it backwards, your server is Linux and your laptop is Windows.

I'd use VNC, or just ssh for most stuff.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I've had good experiences with Rustdesk. The client is open-source and the no-cost server components (ID and Relay servers) are self-hostable. The remote server works on X11 and Windows. I use this script to run XFCE+Rustdesk in a headless session:

export SERVERNUM=69
export SCREEN_SIZE='-screen 0 2560x1440x24'
export DISPLAY=":${SERVERNUM}"
export XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11

xvfb-run --server-num="${SERVERNUM}" --server-args "${SCREEN_SIZE}" startxfce4 & disown
sleep 1
flatpak run com.rustdesk.RustDesk & disown

Sunshine + Moonlight is also a good choice. I have Sunshine installed on a box at home and use Tailscale to connect to it from the Moonlight client. At 1440p 60 FPS it has no visible compression artifacts and responsive enough for gaming.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

You sure you can't do what you need from bash/ssh?

If you only need ssh, anything can be terminal as everything has a ssh client.

[–] eli@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Install Tailscale on all devices.

Then ssh into whatever you need.

If you need desktop remote access the Windows RDP should work for Windows to Windows machines.

For Linux host to Windows client I've had good experiences with Remmina Desktop.

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 18 hours ago

vnc with tailscale, i prefer this over others like moonlight since it can show non-blurry/original image, especially noticeable for text

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you're not comfortable using SSH, each Linux DE comes with its own RDP setup, so refer to the docs of whichever you're running to set that up if you want things to be super simple.

Past that, there's tons of stuff, but I would generally avoid VNC these days because it's pretty much a dead protocol that is insecure and inefficient.

Some people prefer to use RDP compatible tools, some people just use Moonlight. You can use whatever is comfortable for you, really. I would avoid all the suggestions that are telling you to install the giant constructs like Mesh Central though. That's overkill for just two machines here.

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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

At work we use Meshcentral. It requires you to host your own server, but it's very powerful, and very reliable. We're managing something like 400 remote systems with it currently. We also use Netbird as a secondary access layer (I prefer it to Tailscale for the simplicity of setting up ACLs, and the really easy deployment).

For most home server usage though, I wouldn't bother with Meshcentral. It's a lot of overhead if you're only managing a couple of systems. If you really need remote desktop (why do your servers even have desktops?) use RustDesk instead.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

I use freerdp. it's simple, works well, just use it via the terminal. I have it alias'd so I don't even have to think about it.

[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Edited, thanks @Björn:

Whatever destination computer you're looking to connect to, install Sunshine.

Then on the source computer, use Moonlight to connect to the destination.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 5 points 23 hours ago

Other way around. Sunshine is the server, Moonlight is the client.

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