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What do you mean by "can't access the evidence"? Can someone send this MF a Lemmy link with the video?
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2026
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They probably dont have access to the gun, brass, or maybe even bullets lodged in the victim or vehicle. Those, along with crime scene photographs, would usually be presented at trial.
They may not even have a positive id on the shooter, since they hide behind masks - they know what they’re doing is criminal
I think the world's gov'ts that are trending authoritarian will get the data centers they need to sift thru everyone's internet history and kill/imprison/deport those who disagree with them politically. I have a hard time believing they won't go with the kill option bc it's more economic. So, bye!!! See ya next life!!!
It's the final solution
“Without complete access to the evidence, witnesses and information collected, we cannot meet the investigative standards that Minnesota law and the public demand."
This is gaslighting by cowardly state officials. If you can get official records great. But they are not necessary. You have countless eye witnesses and multiple angles of video recording the murder. You don't refuse to prosecute gang hits because you don't have access to official cartel records. No different with ICE.
This is bullshit stonewalling by cowards in state office who are afraid to hold the powerful accountable.
I imagine without access to all to data, it can give the opportunity for the defense to call for a mistrial.
He's was also on 'official duty', so the administration is trying to push it out of MN's system by saying she was the aggressor who attempted to kill him. (If he was killed, it would be instantly out of MN's hands)
I bet they threaten more politicians families. And they folded.
Obstruction of justice say what?
That’s all trump did in his first term, besides giving trillions to billionaires. Nothing happened.
They aren't Trump
No they're Trump's puppets
so don't use the evidence they aren't giving you and use what you can get. the public videos and statements from witnesses should be enough.
Get dat unprotected Flock data
There is going to have to be an investigation, arrest, trial, conviction and punishment. Failure to do any of these things is just going to be a powderkeg exploding. You see the video and it's clear she isn't trying to run him over. You see the video and it's clear she isn't a terrorist. You see the video and it's clear the agent was never in danger. This is state-sponsored murder by an unlawful posse. We reached the Duterte stage this quickly, less than one year from inauguration.
The bluechecks and bots on Twitter are just fascist accelerationists trying to make armed conflict happen as fast as possible to give cover for martial law and seize power. And that may be how it plays out. But they are literally out here killing innocent US citizens, and all of the deeply-embedded racism and xenophobia that lets Americans shrug at a brown person or an immigrant with a Latin-sounding name getting abused or killed, it's not here.
This is different and I don't think it's going away.
I think calling for armed conflict isn't accelerationist, it's already past the line where it should have happened and people are still sitting around thinking "if we just wait until the midterms and vote, things will work out".
It was too late last week, it is too late today, and by the time midterms come, if they come, fascism will have taken 100% hold and the US will be absolutely done.
As it stands now, even if things changed tomorrow, the US will take decades to recover from this - if it even can.
We see because we value facts and evidence, seeking out information to gain an understanding of the situation before making judgements about it.
The dumbfucks who voted for this and continue to cheer it on don't. They appeal to authority, and when authority says to not believe the evidence of their eyes and ears, they cover them. If the regime says she was a "domestic terrorist" or radical leftist, they double down and blame the victim.
Her daylight murder will enrage and concern rational and reasonable people, but it won't do jack shit for the instigating bootlickers who voluntarily impede solidarity and justice.
I will happily make a bet that nothing will happen to that murderer and the ICE will continue as they were.
You may be right the murderer gets off, but I disagree that ICE will continue as they were, because the response here will set an example either way to ICE.
If the murderer is convicted under state law (which I think is very possible with publicly available evidence, and there seems to be a will to prosecute from Walz and the Minneapolis mayor), individual ICE members will realize Trump and Noem can't fully protect them no matter how hard they try to distort reality. It won't solve it, but they will be afraid of punishment. And since their level of moral reasoning is stuck right about at a 3-year-old's "avoid punishment" phase, we need ICE to be in a state of fear of consequences and it should have an effect.
If the murderer is not convicted (or worse, not even arrested/prosecuted), of course that's going to grease the authoritarian slide, and we'll see even more egregious crimes happen more quickly and with even less attention.
I really really hope you're right and I would lose that bet. But we already know that the FBI is doing the "investigation" and they're not sharing any evidence or information with the state police, and Trump is already sending extra agents.
If that ICE murderer gets away, which it looks like he will. That will send the opposite message to all ICE agents - they can kill white, American citizens and nothing will happen to them.
Most Americans are way too naive about what is happening and way too optimistic about things just "working out" somehow.
Have the PD arrest the dude.. oh wait ACAB
Hoisted by our own petard!
I wouldn't let them investigate either, if I was trying to cover up a murder.
So stop investigating, take the material you have, which is enough to put the murderer into prison.
So conduct your own investigation you twits.
Right, right, and, uh, what was that agent’s name agian? Uh, just so we know not to investigate it. (“*snkk* Shutup! shutup”)
Ah, yeah I got a pen. Go ahead.