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Federal officers fired tear gas to disperse early-morning protesters as outrage mounted in Minneapolis over the killing of a 37-year-old woman in her vehicle.

It's time to treat ICE as the organized criminal organization that it is

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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

There is going to have to be an investigation, arrest, trial, conviction and punishment. Failure to do any of these things is just going to be a powderkeg exploding. You see the video and it's clear she isn't trying to run him over. You see the video and it's clear she isn't a terrorist. You see the video and it's clear the agent was never in danger. This is state-sponsored murder by an unlawful posse. We reached the Duterte stage this quickly, less than one year from inauguration.

The bluechecks and bots on Twitter are just fascist accelerationists trying to make armed conflict happen as fast as possible to give cover for martial law and seize power. And that may be how it plays out. But they are literally out here killing innocent US citizens, and all of the deeply-embedded racism and xenophobia that lets Americans shrug at a brown person or an immigrant with a Latin-sounding name getting abused or killed, it's not here.

This is different and I don't think it's going away.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

We see because we value facts and evidence, seeking out information to gain an understanding of the situation before making judgements about it.

The dumbfucks who voted for this and continue to cheer it on don't. They appeal to authority, and when authority says to not believe the evidence of their eyes and ears, they cover them. If the regime says she was a "domestic terrorist" or radical leftist, they double down and blame the victim.

Her daylight murder will enrage and concern rational and reasonable people, but it won't do jack shit for the instigating bootlickers who voluntarily impede solidarity and justice.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I will happily make a bet that nothing will happen to that murderer and the ICE will continue as they were.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You may be right the murderer gets off, but I disagree that ICE will continue as they were, because the response here will set an example either way to ICE.

If the murderer is convicted under state law (which I think is very possible with publicly available evidence, and there seems to be a will to prosecute from Walz and the Minneapolis mayor), individual ICE members will realize Trump and Noem can't fully protect them no matter how hard they try to distort reality. It won't solve it, but they will be afraid of punishment. And since their level of moral reasoning is stuck right about at a 3-year-old's "avoid punishment" phase, we need ICE to be in a state of fear of consequences and it should have an effect.

If the murderer is not convicted (or worse, not even arrested/prosecuted), of course that's going to grease the authoritarian slide, and we'll see even more egregious crimes happen more quickly and with even less attention.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I really really hope you're right and I would lose that bet. But we already know that the FBI is doing the "investigation" and they're not sharing any evidence or information with the state police, and Trump is already sending extra agents.

If that ICE murderer gets away, which it looks like he will. That will send the opposite message to all ICE agents - they can kill white, American citizens and nothing will happen to them.

Most Americans are way too naive about what is happening and way too optimistic about things just "working out" somehow.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think calling for armed conflict isn't accelerationist, it's already past the line where it should have happened and people are still sitting around thinking "if we just wait until the midterms and vote, things will work out".

It was too late last week, it is too late today, and by the time midterms come, if they come, fascism will have taken 100% hold and the US will be absolutely done.

As it stands now, even if things changed tomorrow, the US will take decades to recover from this - if it even can.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

it’s already past the line where it should have happened

Yeah, hand that gift to MAGA. The left seems to love doing that.

Trump is damaged by the Epstein stuff and the shit economy. We could use that to win mid terms next year and have the ability to check Trump. OR, we could stupidly run out into the street in a disorganized fashion and end up killing more innocent civilians than anyone else, giving Trump the excuse he needs to lock down society.