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France is working with partners on a plan over how to respond should the United States act on its threat to take over Greenland, Foreign Affairs Minister Jean-Noel Barrot said on Wednesday.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

At this point i wouldnt even be that surprised anymore if the US just straight up bombs Paris. The "weak men" creating the "hard times" were the boomers all along...

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Won't happen. France has nuclear bombs. And trump is really just a massive coward.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (13 children)

That means if France leaves the EU or becomes far-right, we're doomed.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

That means we need nukes on EU level.

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Trump is the very definition of a weak man.

[–] Tabula_stercore@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Charles de Gaulle was a visionaire

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

He was a realist in the most cynical sense. Maybe because of French experience throughout history that their allies no longer become allies as time goes on. The French used to be allies with the Ottomans. Then Russia used to be allied the West until the collapse of the tsardom (well, even in Putin's earlier years as president, he had warm relations with the West until the late 00s). UK and France used to be bitter rivals but now have warm relations.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

And Sarkozy was and still is a fucking traitor.

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[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 32 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What's going to happen to all the US military bases on Europe?

If the US take out Greenland, and Europe do a military response, the US have easily reach to all major capitals with personal and infrastructure already there.

This is playing into Russian hands, but while those bases are there, they are already occupied by the US.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 41 points 2 months ago (11 children)
[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

Love it how one is literally called MoronΒ 

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[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (28 children)

Uhm, no. Those bases and equipment would be taken over by the local militaries. USA troops are a minority among the national armies, they're not the main force.

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that, it's bringing war in our own soil from day-1. Sure it's easy to launch a few missile at an US base a few minutes before having infantry taking them over, but during that time your fighting on your own soil.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

That's war. If the NSA (Nazi States of America) attacked, where do you think the fighting would happen? In the Atlantic Ocean? Either way it will be in Europe to begin with. At least the EU would have a chance to confiscate some of the equipment and use it against them

[–] saimen@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Are these really pure US bases though? My understanding is they are mainly NATO bases where the US is present as well.

The footnote even says it: "at which DOD exercises some degree of operational control"

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[–] Swemg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Maybe they would fight with Europe? ^^

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[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The very fact that this is being communicated shows how crazy things have become. I said it before and I'll say it again: Europe needs to prepare for war with the US.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Europe doesn't need to deploy a single boot. They need to instantly expel every single American citizen, expel all troops, cut off American social media, cut all American imports, the list goes on.

They didn't do that to Russia, hence the administration's boldness for an upcoming invasion.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The EU members should stop purchasing US made weapon systems and send a warning to close all the US military installations in Europe.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The world let America militarize at a pace that would have made Nazi Germany blush.

There is no reason for USA to have this much military capacity unless they plan to use it to steal, loot and bully others. Not even China, Russia and Iran all put together would match their strength.

It was just a matter of time until someone evil became president and turned that military against the world.

After WW3, and the allies defeat amerikkka there will need be some limits put in place.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even China, Russia and Iran all put together would match their strength.

Don't worry, China's on track to replace the US as the world police without any help needed from Russia or Iran in a few decades. They're building carriers WAY faster and they're also building fifth generation fighters now, though not yet at a pace matching the US.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Decades? The only thing stopping them is they gonna run out of young people soonish.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So is every other developed nation.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's why I can't understand people being against immigration. Literally without immigration most developed nations would be majority geriatric in 2 generations and basically empty within 4. Birth and fertility rates are in a nosedive globally... it's just plain stupid to be against immigration, as it's one of the only ways populations are being held or grown.
And that's not even getting into filling skills gaps/"essential" work that the "native" population don't want to do. Just look at how fucked American agriculture is without migrants doing everything. Or how Brexit fucked British agriculture and other low pay sector jobs, and nursing.

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[–] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago

The US has always been evil. This behavior isn't new.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago

Nuclear warning shot

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is all dumb. There is no reason for troops, ect. Trump admin isn't going to "take" Greenland. Yes, he is bat-shit insane, but all the EU (or even just the group that signed the letter) has to do is just casually mention that they will all immediately sell the Tbond debt. The EU collectively holds more than 2.3 Trillion in bonds. A simple word to the billionaires that are behind the administration that this will happen will stop all of it. They money guys ain't that crazy to let Europe bankrupt the US Treasury in one fell swoop.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They money guys ain't that crazy to let Europe bankrupt the US Treasury in one fell swoop.

Right-wing tech billionaires talk openly about their "network state" goal, two aspects of which include sidelining sovereign currency and weakening/destroying existing governmental institutions

[–] Blade9732@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh yes. They do want that, just not all at once.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This would hurt the EU as well because:

  • those t bonds serve as a reserve giving the euro value as it can be exchanged for USD, if they sell the t bonds then people can't exchange them for USD as easily and the value will go down as it's harder to buy things outside of the EU which is usually denominated in USD, and a currency is only as valuable as what you can buy with it.

  • this will crash the US economy and every recession that the US goes through Europe ends up getting dragged into as well

  • dumping that many t bonds would reduce the price and thus they would have to sell them at a loss, leaving multi hundred billion euro hole in there balance sheet

This isn't to say they can't do it, just that it would cost them a lot and it remains a question if your average EU citizen would tolerate these hardships for Greenland. They've already shown they aren't willing to completely cut themselves off from Russian gas for Ukraine, and Ukraine seems a more relevant cause for them then Greenland.

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[–] teolan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Working on a plan...

In the interview it's more like:

  • "the us can't invade it makes no sense"
  • Journalist: "but Trump did says he'd use force if necessary"
  • "They won't invade, Marco Rubio told me do"
  • "But what if they do"
  • annoyed: "we are working on a plan"
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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If they want to keep it they better station troops there

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[–] cathray@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

"Our currently best plan is to lay on our backs, spread our limbs, and pretend to be dead." - EU, probably.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No need to worry. Greenland has the best covered entry teams in the world. They do it a million times and do not get caught, if they do not want to. There are even photos of Greenlands special forces close to US presidents.

Spoiler__

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