Politics

I was not on that sub because in case it wasn't clear I'm not a trumper, but if you were in it for the memes, I hate to tell you but a lot of that was foreign influence or people with no actual political views other than lulz. Both those groups have moved on to even more meme-able things with even worse more extreme views. I don't think people with coherent political positions want "politicians to go to jail", I think most people want criminals to be held accountable. People rallying around jailing people in general are not my vibe, but maybe it's worth reflecting on why you think certain people should be jailed and others shouldn't. Trump is a felon many times over. You can read or watch plenty on what he's already been found guilty of, and plenty on things he was able to get out of, so maybe jailing politicians has just fallen out of favor with his die hard fans. If you believe that the Epstein files are real, how do you square that with the president calling it a hoax and all the waffling and lying the administration has done about them? The die hard fans are taking the line that it's all a hoax and the rest are ignoring it because it's easy to do, just like they ignored all of the other issues with him and his administration. Only you get to decide what you will do with that information. I hope you're able to find your way out of it.

Those people will cheer for anything he says because the content doesn't matter, only tribalism.

"People" are not a single entity. Everyone is different. Many would cheer for him no matter what, whether they are diehard Rs or they have some kind of parasocial relationship or whatever. They don't care what he says, only that he said it. Some would cheer because they like what he says, regardless of who said it. Some would disagree and become disillusioned. And some might even hate him now.

He still has a lot of supporters. I nearly cut my mom off recently, and I rarely talk to my dad. Both of them rampant supporters. Naturally, their support of this bullshit treatment towards innocent trans people (like the guy I'm married to) was enough. And they'll defend it still, even disrespecting us in the process, or jumping through mental hoops to explain how he doesn't actually hate trans people and isn't attacking them on a near daily basis. I can't explain why they do this, and honestly it's not my job to change them as much as I'd love to (and I've tried). All I can assume is that my parents don't respect who I married, and that's enough for me. But my point is they're still out there.

Considering he had a campaign promise to help Israel achieve thoer goals? Yes.

i distinctly remember the outcome of hundreds of hours of foaming-at-the-mouth congressional conservatives desperate to charge her with anything and not being able to find a single law that was broken. policy? definitely. unfortunately thats not illegal

with the current administration not only is all policy merely decoration, but most laws also.

they and the supreme court are abusing the slow churn of government to dissolve the republic. good job, guys.

Oof you got played hard. Not only did Clinton not do anything criminally chargeable. The DNC could have legitimately told Sanders to go pound sand and not allowed him to be a candidate. And there would have been no crime. The parties can and do set their own BS rules in their primaries.

Republicans attack on public education for the last half century payed off big in people like yourself. You still don't realize what a fool they made of you and how much they laugh at and ridicule people like yourself behind your back. Yet you still feel more animosity to rudderless corporate Democrats than the people who used you.

To be clear all national and state level parties need to be wiped out. Democrat, Republican, etc etc. They have too much power and are too insulated to represent anyone but themselves. Change doesn't come from the top down. If it wasn't for ranks of sycophantic sociopath's being cultivated for decades, and installed in offices nation wide. Trump would be a sundowning lame duck clown. As he should be. Instead, millions of ignorant Americans were duped into voting for the worst possible stewards of their interests.

I commented elsewhere in the thread, and I hate having multiple threads with the same person, but would you mind explaining how she rigged the election against Bernie and why that is illegal?

I'm a Bernie supporter and you can see in my comment history that if anything I'm a Bernie Stan, but what "Hillary did" mostly relates to how the DNC operates. The only reason the DNC has so much influence is because of our election format which favors a two party system. The best way to resolve that is by changing how voting works (ranked choice etc) which is mostly supported by democrats not republicans. Additionally, Hillary won the popular vote. Do you not think it's a problem that the electoral college was able to invalidate the will of the majority of the population? Is that not a more direct threat to democracy, especially as states attempt to gerrymander more?

I’d argue rigging the election against Bernie was treason

Well then, I'd say you don't understand the words you're using. While utterly detestable, that wasn't treason. Try again.