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Due to it's slow rotation it actually completes a full rotation of the sun before it itself fully rotates.

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[–] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

It kinda depends how you define "a day". The usual standard colloquial definition we use would be a "solar day", i.e. how long it takes for it to go dark and light once each, i.e. noon to noon.

The definition you're using in this post though is a "sidereal day", which if you just say "a day" no one would mean, thus this post is misleading. A sidereal day is how long a planet needs to spin around itself.

A Venus "solar (normal) day" (like we normally use the phrase "day") is 116.75 earth days, while a Venus year is 224.7 earth days. The "sidereal day" that you're talking about here is 243 earth days long. So a day on Venus is actually shorter than a year on Venus, at least if you use our usual definition of "day".

Since Venus itself spins opposite to its orbit around the sun, its own spin together with its orbiting around the sun add up together to make the "solar (normal) day" shorter.

An Earth sidereal day is 23 hours 56 minutes while its solar day is 24 hours long. Here, the sidereal day is shorter than the solar day, because the Earth spins in the same direction as its orbit.

Sources: [1] [2]

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

Thanks, I came looking for this clarification.

LLMs love giving the sidereal day as the length for some reason.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My son went back to college in his late 20s to get a degree that might lead to a job, so he was in class with a lot of 18 year olds.

He had a astrophysics class, and got in an argument with a girl who insisted that the Sun went around the Earth. He asked her how the length of a year was measured, and she said that long, long ago, some guys just chose an arbitrary number of days to make a year.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago

How sure are you that she was not the reincarnation of Aristotle?

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 104 points 10 hours ago

the datetime library developer takes another bottle from the liquor cabinet

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Hey OP! I'd rather spend a day with you than on Venus!

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 51 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

I love how much of a rebel non-conformist Venus is. Years longer than its days, rotates the opposite direction than all other planets because fuck you, thats why. And don't you even THINK about getting close and trying to land on her. Just ask the Russians how that went. You can't handle her pressure, temperature nor toxic atmosphere. What a bad bitch. She doesn't need nor ask your permission to do jack shit.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago

Bro talking about terraforming venus while we're still not done venusforming earth.

I ate Taco Bell last night and let me tell you about hot and toxic.

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

You can't handle her pressure, temperature nor toxic atmosphere.

But... but my ex's name wasn't Venus.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Hot, toxic, corrosive, and capable of crushing a man. Just how I like them.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Years longer than its days

That sounds oddly familiar

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

That was like living with my ex-wife.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

rotates the opposite direction

By this, you mean its rotation around its own axis?

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Venus sure as shit wont rotate around anyone else's axis. Venus dgaf.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

😂 joking aside, was referring to its solar orbit 😁

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, most planets have the same rotation direction as orbital direction (counter-clockwise rotation, counter-clockwise orbit) but Venus rotates clockwise.

[–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Then there is ~~Neptune~~ Uranus that just rolls around...

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Neptune has learning disabilities and we accept him just the way he is.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Uranus rotates on its side. Instead of rotating with its axis roughly perpendicular to the plane of its orbit (like all the other planets in our Solar System), Uranus rotates on its side (along its orbital path). This tipped rotational axis gives rise to extreme seasons on Uranus.

[–] illi@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

My anus certainly doesn't rotate perpendicular...

Anyway, that was terrible Thanks for the correction.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

One is rotation, but the other is revolution.

Rotation: circular motion of a body about its own axis.

Revolution: motion of an object moving around another object.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 17 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Wow that is incredible. Isn’t Venus year equal to 200 or so Earth Days?

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 23 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Pretty sure it also spins the "wrong way" compared to all the other planets, probably a massive impact at some point stopped it spinning and sent it backwards slowly

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's a good observation. I think you're right. It really is insane how much evidence of impacts and other forms of geological trauma is extant on other worlds

Makes you imagine if the galaxies didn't spin so slow (relative to human timescales), we'd be watching rippling shrapnel as shit collides with one another in real time

Space is so cool, fuck

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Cosmic billiards

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Could this also have contributed to the massive greenhouse effect it has?

According to Wikipedia, it seems that the current scientific explanation is that the runaway greenhouse effect was caused by the evaporation of oceans (caused by the brightening of the sun). The presence of vapor in the atmosphere led to the runaway greenhouse effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect?useskin=monobook#Venus

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 5 points 10 hours ago

I guess whatever hit it could have been made of largely carbon dioxide? No idea if anyone knows where the CO2 came from

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Are there any ramifications of that?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

According to Superman (1978), time would move backwards.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

It's basic science really.

[–] TheFlopster@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I think (although I could be wrong), that that film was trying to depict that Superman was flying so fast that he went back in time. And the best visual they could come up with was that the earth was spinning "backwards" in order to depict this.

[–] marius@feddit.org 10 points 11 hours ago

Imagine there's a leap year and suddenly the year is three times as long

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

I think my physics teacher told me this fact but followed it up with "Measuring a planet's rotation around the sun by how fast it rotates around it's center is like trying to measure the speed of a truck based on how many rotations a ballerina can spin inside of it."

That quote haunts me.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 4 points 6 hours ago

Bit silly. In this scenario, you're not measuring the speed of the truck. You're measuring the time it takes to complete a lap. And we are the ballerina rotating, and as we are a miniature plastic ballerina with no outside frame of reference, our own regular rotation is the only consistent measure we have.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How did the ballerina get inside the truck? Is she alright?!

[–] essell@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Is she spinning because she's happy? Or is she spinning to drill a hole in the floor and escape?

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

This one fact always blows my mind.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Are we talking sidereal day or solar day? Both?

[–] waterbird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

quality TIL post. we didn’t know this either!

[–] dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

It took me like three readings of the post title to comprehend it wasn't a typo lol