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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

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Not just uncaught murderers, there are a lot of people who have killed without legally being considered murderers.

People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents

People who killed in self defense

Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers

Executioners

Police officers who have killed on duty

Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients

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[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Used to work with the criminally insane. I've also met a LOT of pedophiles. Not many because they actually were crazy but because they were trying to get declared as such to not get fucked up in prison. Most of them aren't even actually attracted to children they just wanna victimize someone and children are smaller / weaker and less able to advocate for themselves. The one thing pretty much all of them have in common is a pitiful combination of sadism and cowardice.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I drive now! Good luck everyone else!

[–] BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 3 points 20 hours ago

I've been a lawyer for over 20 years... So, I've met more than a couple.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Two people, in fact. First was a Hell's Angels enforcer. Had lunch at a Chinese restaurant with him and a few other people from my former Kung Fu school. Apparently he was a former student and credibly accused of murdering a rival biker gang member, but the jury was hung and couldn't convict.

Second was none other than Shrimp Boy, after he got released from prison for the murders he committed but before he got locked up again for the racketeering charges. Met in in Chinatown literally a few days before the feds closed in on him. Shared a cup of tea with him without knowing his identity and didn't find out until someone present told me who he was days later.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I took a flight back from Europe with a colleague years ago, we talked for hours. A year later he was found guilty of killing his wife with cyanide.

People do a great job of hiding their demons in a professional setting.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yup, can confirm, have a convicted offender colleague.

When I was 18/19 in college, I met a guy through my brother's work that was in his mid 40's. We hung out with him and his girlfriend a lot and he was pretty good friends with my brother. He even met my mom and family, helped her with some construction projects she needed done (dad died when I was 15, so she didn't have that extra help), and was invited to her wedding to my step dad.

Now we knew that this guy was an ex-con (the restaurant my brother worked at hired a lot of ex-cons), but we never really judged or pried into what happened. Honestly, this guy was always just chill, giving, funny, helpful, and respectful. I never got creeped out by him, and i never felt like he was inappropriate with me. We found out through a mutual friend later that this guy used to get paid to bleach the bodies of girls/women that had been raped and killed by others. To this mutual friend's knowledge, our friend hadn't actually done any raping/killing, but I was really struggling to feel much comfort in the fact that he "only" helped guys get away with it. Especially because I was a young, petite college girl at the time.

Anyways, I dont directly know of anybody ive met that has killed someone, but the fact that I know of somebody that did this horrible thing makes me think that you're correct.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is quite likely that someone I knew either killed a person, or had them killed.

Said potential murderer is dead for a few years now and tbh I don't think anyone wants to uncover this mystery anymore. Since the whole thing was very long ago, it's easier to just ignore it instead of ruining everyone's memory of a person. The other person who could've done it has been dead for a decade or 2 too.

[–] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

Let's just say some people I know lost their mother at a very early age and when one of them finally asked the father about it 30 years later, his explanation was "well person X was at work that night, ask him". Person X being a business partner of his, somewhat of a low-end organized crime guy. Dead for like 10-15 years at that point.

When I say lost, I mean she hasn't been found decades later. Not even a body.

Early 90s were a crazy ass time here in Estonia.

There's more details I know, but honestly if I go too into detail and the story makes its way out of our tiny community here, people who know about the whole thing will instantly figure out who I am and who I'm talking about and I don't want that. Not because I'm in any danger from anyone - just because I don't want it to happen.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I knew a guy who got imprisoned for murder, really nice guy, the way he described it was an armed robbery where the armed person got spooked and fired off a shot. They were arrested on the road while taking the victim to the hospital (they weren't trying to hurt anyone) and ended up getting booked for murder and kidnapping.

I met him a few years after he got out on probation.

Edit: fixed a typo

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

I once gave a friend of a friend a condescending chewing-out after they did something hurtful.

Some time later our mutual friend informed me that they had died, but declined to tell me the cause of death.

Much later I discovered it was self-caused.

... Were my words too much? We spend our lives trying to be more effective communicators. What if we're too effective when it matters most?

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That may be true in the US.
Most of these reasons don't apply to normal more civilized countries

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some do.

Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers

Starting to get more likely in Eastern Europe now than the US I'd say. Never know when you might run into a former Russian or Ukrainan soldier.

People who killed in self defense

Probably less likely outside of the US since no guns, but assault is still a thing and you can kill an assailant without a gun.

Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients

This is universal.

People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents

So is this.

[–] cloudskater@pawb.social 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That is true, but I think they were just trying to take a shot (haha) at the US. Well deserved, for sure.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

So only the last 2.
Also, they don't mention the most obvious reason, meeting a murderer that didn't get caught.
It is quite easy to murder someone if you take your time and are careful.
Most solved cases would be crimes of passion where the killer doesn't care (at that moment)

And yes, partially, not 'just only' a shot at the despicable US gun culture and militarism

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yeah and several of them were my kin and were murderers. My kin were the folks who you went to when you needed someone dealt with, hell I wouldn't be surprised if my great great aunt killed someone as a favor to the Hells Angels back in the day. Let alone some of the kin I'm less close, I know at least one of them ended up in prison for murder back in the day due to some such Berdoo nonsense. Funny enough a kinsman who I only met once was also in Prison at some point and was on the bad side of the law into old age threatened to kill my sperm donor, glad he didn't kill stealing is a step to far and that sombitch belongs either to my grandmother or myself.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

Unless you live in a civilised country where guns aren’t everywhere and not everyone is a war vet.

[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Met a guy after he got out of prison for drunk driving and killing someone. I don't know the details but he wouldn't go anywhere near alcohol, so at least he's trying to be better.

Also I have met quite a few War Veterans over the years.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I killed someone. It's a called a dead name for a reason.

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My ex-brother-in-law killed a family of four while DUI. The cops really screwed up the investigation so he was able to get the charges down to a minor moving violation. He never saw the inside of a jail.

When I was in high school a friend of a friend that I knew and had hung out with at a couple of times was a serial killer/rapist. He was one of the last people executed by that state.

Edit: My grandfather killed some Nazis in WW2. Several former coworkers killed people in the line of duty as soldiers. And, I worked as a records clerk at a nursing home, so I knew several doctors and nurses that had taken people off life support.

I met the guy who killed my best friend. At her funeral. He was her boyfriend. He got her addicted to drugs. Technically she killed herself by OD-ing, but had he never got her addicted she’d still be alive today. I couldn’t face him. He tried to talk to be and just walked away.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

If you’re old enough you’ve definitely met someone who has done at least one murder. The question is intent as you’ve said: did you meet the drunk driver or the serial killer with 50 bodies in the basement who hasn’t been caught.

Also this applies to rape and that is far more common because it is simply less reported. One of your buddies might be a person that has straight up forced a person to have sex, maybe violently

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As far as i know, i have met only one person like this.

A guy i knew in "highschool" (kinda equilevant) killed his friend a few years later while both were drunk and had just come out of sauna. He thought that his girlfriend had cheated on him with the other guy and woops, axe to the back.

I have no knowledge of encountering such person, also i never met anyone who owns a gun

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 2 points 1 day ago

I know two that I can verify. One is a combat vet who had to kill during a fire fight in Iraq. The other is an outlaw biker who I went to school with, he shot a rival club member and a few years later got caught on a trafficking charge and somehow the police were able to connect him to the murder after his arrest. He's obviously in prison now. It's weird to know that after he committed the murder we reconnected and hung out a few times, there I was sitting at a bar laughing and joking with a killer without even knowing it.

[–] lowflyingduck@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I wonder how many people who have themselves unknowingly caused a death, though some thoughtless or innocuous action. E.g. a discarded banana peel causes another person to later slip and fall with a fatal result.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

the number of people who fall into this category through their use of stock LED headlights is non-zero

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I was in the US Army for 6 years, soo there is that.

I grew up poor white trash in the US south, soo there is that.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, with their scooter at a crosswalk after a bus stop. Classic.

I have. I used to drink with someone who later killed someone while drinking.

Carl can fuck right off.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 127 points 2 days ago (5 children)

On the flip side, you've probably met someone who has saved a person's life.

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[–] HelterSkeletor@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I work in healthcare, I've removed... so many people from life support. I often wonder if that's, not the same, but...

[–] uncouple9831@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If you're an engineer you've almost certainly contributed meaningfully to the death of someone.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

My dad killed his friend in a drunk driving accident back in 1986.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You have definitely met someone who will kill themselves in the end. The rate is about 1/70 people in the US, and for every successful suicide there are 32 attempts of varying seriousness.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago

Had a buddy that couldn't take the pain anymore and he had enough drink and anxiety meds one night and he just never woke up.

He made sure to turn on his music extra loud so it'd bother his neighbors so his cat would be okay and would be rehomed.

He was a good guy.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes, he told me he did it in self-defense, in an "it's either you or me" kind of deadly dispute, and was not caught. It was an interesting story of drugs, gangs, revenge, and a dramatic ending involving a kidnapping where he was held at gunpoint by the kingpin. Sometimes I wonder if he was only testing my trust by retelling a movie, though.

Another time, I met an old-looking guy who was kidnapped by cartels and held captive for two years. He told me he had been starved and tortured and showed me a before-picture of himself where he looked incredibly built and handsome. In an effort to survive, he became one of their best assets with his ability to convince and negotiate, helping to kidnap other people until he was set free. I guess he was trauma-dumping on me.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

If you want to test this, start up conversations with the combat vets around you. You might not like the answers. That's the vast majority of killers I've known (that I've known).

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