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Despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, Infosys co-founder Narayana Murthy has once again called for longer working weeks has returned, this time with an emphasis on schedules like the 996-pattern used in parts of China.

Murthy's comments revive a debate which began in 2024, when he argued that Indian employees should work 70 hours a week.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Well, thank you for the warning. So you are saying people should avoid working for you at any cost.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

So what I'm hearing from that headline alone is that he's a psychopath who doesn't work more than 5 hours a week, and what little """work""" he does consists of getting drunk at lunch and moaning to other CEOs about how lazy his workers are.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

You could replace most management people with a rack of GPUs and nobody would notice. Mostly they are a very unimaginative lot parroting the same misguided group think that devalues the employees that create all their companies value. Infosys is a consulting company. They don't make anything or own valuable IP. They pimp out Indian labour to undercut the labour rates and conditions in developed countries which already makes them a shitload of profit.

You would think with increasing options to Indian professionals, their recruitment people would be shitting bricks trying to hire talent with this bullshit out there but they have probably sacked them as well. Though, if I wasn't poor I would probably say all sorts of shit to pump share prices and cash out before the AI bubble bursts.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I learned that China had basically made this shit illegal years ago, but work hours in China are still insane. I am willing to bet that they will still have incredible growth and prosperity even if those workhours are strictly enforced.

People like this dipshit need to be stripped of all possessions and wealth and immured alive.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes they are illegal but companies will use workarounds to get people to put in more time. it's a fake law basically

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I guess even in authoritarian police states where the government will disappear or execute you for any opposition businesses still get away with being assholes.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

if you do business in any authoritarian police state, you will see that laws are arbitrarily enforced. and you will regularly be paying fees that don't exist.

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's not just saturday morning cartoon villain evil.

It's also incredibly fucking stupid.

Anything that you get better outcomes from by making people work longer, like assembly lines, can be done better by robots anyway, and of course you as capital owner don't have to live life after your dominant hand gets crushed and amputated.

Anything that isn't pure rote work, you get better results when people are not overworked and spending thirty hours a week sticking fucking pencils in your acoustic ceiling because nobody's fucking brain works that long and hard.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 19 hours ago

Also automation is getting better and better all the damn time. The only reason why we haven't hit 30 hour workweek is due to declining unions and and exploitation politics.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Iceland made theor 4 day workweek experiment permanent...because it was actually more productive.

They don't even want all the money, they just want us to suffer

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

The sooner we start eating these motherfuckers the faster things will improve.

Billionaire is a mental illness that isn't compatible with civil society,

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't understand why these assholes insist on people working more hours. What's the difference to them between 1 person working 70 hours a week or 2 people working a combined total of 70 hours if they're both paid the same hourly rate?

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago

if they're both paid the same hourly rate?

That's the fun part: you only have to pay them for 40 hours!

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just aren't thinking like a billionaire, man. What you do is get the two people anyway, and still force the 70 hour work week.

Your job is not to find a reasonable steady state of operation. Your job is to exploit the resources before you (even the ones with emotions and families) to extract value for the shareholders in the most efficient way possible, before somebody even more evil and clever than you figures out a better way and we direct future fresh meat to his meat grinder instead of yours.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not only is it your job, you're legally required to, and your shareholders can sue you if you don't as per Ford v Dodge

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

He gets less profit this way

[–] Hazor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Benefits can be expensive, and they only pay you for the 40 hours because it's a salaried rather than hourly position. They just want free labor at the expense of the employees' sanity.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Insurance, benefits and labor expenses. Even in places with little worker protections there are costs that scale with the number of workers instead of the number of hours.
A brief look indicates employers in India can expect to budget on the order of 18% of an employees take home per year for those expenses.

There are some circumstances and places in the US where you don't need to provide as many benefits to employees who work below 40 hours. Then you see employers hire more people and schedule them for just under the threshold to give them benefits.

The answer is always because it's cheaper for them somehow.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Overworked peasants have neither the time nor the energy to revolt.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

These people may as well tattoo "slave owner" on their foreheads by now.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 hours ago
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

CEO: has lunch and answers a phone call. “I’m working!” Writes a proposal from a yacht “I’m working!” Goes golfing with industry buddies. “I’m working!” Paid tens of millions not including stock options. Spends time in the c-suite. Actually is working. Writes a letter about his cubicle slaves who are chained to their cubicle at work, their phone at home, unable to actually use PTO due to fear of negative performance reviews, working 50+ hours on the clock and uncounted hours off the clock “You need to work more!!” With their pay and benefits constantly under assault by managers.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like hell the CEO is writing a proposal himself on a yacht. That's what his secretary, Sugartits or Kathy or whatever, is for.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

He read the proposal. That's his work for the day. Claimed 18 hrs.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I've never seen it written so concisely before. The truth hits that much harder because of it 🫠🥲

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 1 points 20 hours ago

Why, so they can write even more shitty software?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 74 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Crunching does not work!

Instead, it reduces productivity to a fraction (often 10% of normal), countering any time added.

You want to improve your productivity, you make your workers happy. Make sure they can eat, have good healthcare, have adequate family life, etc.

We now have studies that counter the crunching myths and time theft myths.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 44 points 1 day ago

"Infosys co-founder suggested slavery could be brought back with updated terms and conditions"

This is how this news should be titled

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you follow the standard 5 day business week, that is 70 hours worked for every 50 hours not worked. Account for 8 hours of sleep a night and you have 2 hours a day to commute to your job. Literally zero time for any other needs. And that's ONLY if you are generous enough to give everyone the weekend to recharge.

For a 7 day work week with no days off, allowing for 8 hours of sleep per day and 2 hours of commute time, that is 4 hours a day to do anything else. I also would assume that part of the day would still be considered off hours for lunch. As well. Call it 3 hours a day for anything not work related.

This man should be hanged for even suggesting this as a reasonable productivity schedule for any living being.

[–] pseudonaut@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

No joke, I really do think in a just society he would be hanged.

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[–] chemicalprophet@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Luigi’s work is piling up, isn’t he about to be acquitted?

[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Old hag still at it... Him and his wife are insufferable man

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Put his ass out there in the field for 70 hrs and see if he keeps preaching it

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (2 children)

can someone kidnap this motherfucker and make him work normal labor job for 80 hours a week, for a year, and see how much he likes this stupid fucking pants on head idea after that

[–] RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The pampered idiots that suggest these things would literally not survive a year of actual work at 40 hours let alone what they propose

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[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Go fuck yourself, parasite. Signed, the world.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

And management will lead by example right?

...right?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 133 points 2 days ago

“You worked really hard this year. 60 hour weeks. Impressive but you can do more. See that rolls Royce in the parking lot? If you work 80 hour weeks next year and everything works out, I’ll be able to buy a second one.”

[–] echo@lemmings.world 225 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Oh fuck off, asshole... you need to be thrown in prison.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Shit like this should be shown to people who argue against unionization.

Remember, the parasites will take everything they can, even if it means their eventual demise.

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