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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Need one that just says “Error.” Send them scurrying to the repair shop or something.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mine likes to proudly announce “Connected to Bluetooth device!” while I’m in the middle of a manouevre.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 10 points 22 hours ago

I'm reading this in Ralph Wiggum's voice, like the car version of "my cats breath smells like cat food!".

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Rear view cameras have been required by law for a few years now. I'm pretty sure it was a ploy by manufacturers to get a screen on every dashboard so they could sell ads.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're the manufacturers. They could just... Put a screen in anyway?

Consumers definitely want the cameras regardless of legislation. It's one of the very few decent features added to cars recently.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 7 points 18 hours ago

Right? I'm driving my mom's old Element to try to sell it, and it feels so unsafe to back up without the camera.

Looking around does nothing when you're sandwiched between two massive trucks.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also hate ads, but I think it was more likely to minimize how many children old people were squashing :

https://www.iihs.org/research-areas/bibliography/ref/2130

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

They're not wrong? It's an open secret in the business world that information is the new gold.

If something is free, you're the product.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They are wrong. The manufacturers could have put and marketed a large screen display in their cars without needing to hide behind backup cameras as an excuse.

Plus, the auto companies lobbied against being forced to install backup cameras by default.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago

Exactly, they need to include the backup camera instead of upselling you on it by including it in the upper trim or a tech/safety package.

thinking that the manufacturers would lobby for the mandatory backup camera just so they can install displays on all car (another thing they cant upsell) just to show some ads is some asinine thinking.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I am gladly the product of linux. Keep selling me free linux!!

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

But a rear view camera isn't free, you usually buy it as an option.

Also, I have never seen an ad on any dashboard screen. Maybe if you installed some android app, but never from the manufacturer themselves.

[–] kif@lemmy.nz 6 points 23 hours ago

I mean, it's not an option if it's required by law. As to your second point, I have seen news articles talking about "sponsored recommendations", but nothing as blatant as tv/radio ads. https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/360895851/ev-drivers-be-bombarded-incar-adverts

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world -1 points 23 hours ago

My guess is that you're not in the US like I am, but I hear so many ridiculous stories and laws over there which are privacy-invasive, because it is not a secret that corporations and governments want data to surveil and manipulate its citizens, and then train AI.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

The manufacturers were opposed to them being required. I think they claimed it would cost an extra $200-250 per car. But they sure won’t pass up on the ads if they think they can get away with it!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Negative. They were very against the law. A guy backed over and killed his own child and made it a multi year mission to force back up cameras as a requirement. Politicians look bad if they don't want to "save the children."

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Politicians look bad if they don't want to "save the children."

How many school shootings so far this year?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

Clearly that's an unsolvable problem 😉

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

People in their big SUVs were running over their kids in the driveway so a Mazda miata has a camera now. Similar to people in their Ford exploders that were rolling over because they didn't check their tire pressures and the negligence of Firestone causing tires to seperate, so they now have tpms sensors.

[–] Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 15 hours ago

Yo fuck those sensors tho. My old ass car has em and they started all dying from age, fuckers want 90 bucks each plus whatever bullshit amount for labor to replace them, so now I gotta click past a stupid warning whenever I start my car to see the digital speedometer 🙄

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

This is a conspiracy theory as nuts as fake moon landings

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I've never seen an ad on my car's screen. My brother's car from 2013 has a backup camera, and that car literally cannot communicate to any server that could serve ads.

If car companies wanted to put ads on screens, they wouldn't need an excuse to put in a screen, they'd just do it. But they wouldn't do that, because ads are a safety hazard and they'd have their pants sued off. I can't even connect a new Bluetooth device to my car (pressing 1 button) unless the parking brake is applied. Stellantis is in hot water for their braindead attempt at "ads" in their cars, and that's just a pop-up that shows up when the car is stopped.

Not even Google maps advertises to me when I use Android Auto, and ads are Google's thing

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Law where??? I still see junker cars from the 60s driving around here where I live.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago

For new car sales.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

us transportation made it a law in 2014 but effective 2018 that all vehicles made after 2018 under 10000 pounds are required to have a backup screen. so any new car made in the reletive past decade will probably have one. laws for cars are not retroactive usually.

[–] dryfter@ani.social 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Just curious if you’re aware of any laws for cars that ARE/HAVE BEEN retroactive?

Just generically I can’t really think of anything that “could be”, but I’m no mechanic or lawyer. 🤣

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 5 points 22 hours ago

Some emissions regulations are retroactive in a sense, in that they prohibit continued operation of vehicles that were compliant at time of manufacture.

For example, it’s illegal to operate diesel heavy trucks 2010 and older in California, with limited exemptions for highly specialized vehicles.

These sort of regulations are rare, as it really pisses people off.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

off the top of my head, no. but I know for the seatbelt law at least, if a car before the mandatory seatbelt law had optional seatbelts, having the seatbelt became mandatory if it had one (that is, you cannot remove them). Cars that had no seatbelts nor had optional ones are exempt.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Maybe around car alarms?

The after market ones are awful, but car theft in the early 2000s was also way higher (like 2x) than anything we’ve seen since.

[–] velindora@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 day ago

Portland? Haha

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Would this work as depicted? Wouldn't it just be a blur?

[–] ButteryMonkey@piefed.social 27 points 1 day ago

Maybe there’s a specific size/resolution of image you could use to make it work, if you knew the exact distance? But I’d also think this wouldn’t work..

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Taping to the camera as shown on the left would be challenging to make work at least. The cameras don’t put out light so whatever image you use would have to be on paper thin and light enough for backlighting to work. The distortion that close would also be extreme, so you’d want to keep the main part of your image in the center and small. And yeah, it’d probably be blurry, but the resolution on most of those cameras was already pretty bad up until a few years ago so you might not notice.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's not just (or so much) the resolution, it's what the minimum focus distance of the lens is. I'd bet that is going to be more than a couple of cm

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Create a image adapted to the distortion? I'm sure there's software around for this.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Are rear view cameras really "fancy" these days?

[–] yannic@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It means your car is likely less than 10 years old, so... yes.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Mmmmm idk, I'll take my old beater Civic over any new Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, or Stellantis product.

Hell, just the fact that you can't buy a low trim Civic or Corolla with a stick shift anymore is kinda tragic.

The 90s are where cars peaked, and I will die on that hill.

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago

murilee martin says the same thing

[–] ilillilillilillililli@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not at all. They have been required since 2018 and fairly cheap to add to older vehicles.

2018!! Well shit. Did they even make cars that backed up prior to then?

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 day ago

Idk... This could backfire and scare them into punching the accelerator in reverse, causing more damage out of fear!