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Nothing like an infographic to immediately enrage nerds
Is this 3D diagrams across a 2D map?
Once again, Portugal is so far west it underflows into eastern Europe.
The arithmetic mean of city-center and outside-center one-bedroom apartment rents was used.
Ain't no one renting in the center of Moscow unless they're approaching fuck-you money.
This is so stupid. Just fucking use numbers
This is, quite possibly, the most useless map I've seen.
Not only is it using average salaries, it's also only looking at country capitals, where executive salaries are notoriously obnoxious.
For this to have any real-life use, it should be using the median salary, at the very least, and use the average apartment price based on data from, I don't know, top-10 cities.
Came here to see if it was median or not.
Bern filled with rich people making housing cheap I guess. /j
That would be better, although I'd guess it would look similar in the end.
It would look VERY different. The median salary in Poland in 2024 was around €1550. The average monthly rent for an apartment in Warsaw in 2025 is €1440. The average price of groceries for a month in Warsaw is around €220.
Assuming you work from home and your water/heating/electricity/Internet costs are somehow zero (they aren't), you're still -€110 per month, instead of having half your salary left.
Large cities are notoriously expensive in Poland.
Poland did come across as a hard-to-exist-in eastern country on this map as well. The numbers would of course be different, but I'm not sure the pattern would be.
What do you mean? According to this map, you need to spend around half of your salary for accommodation, which puts it near the middle of the stack. And, considering the average salaries, would allow you live very comfortably.
I guess you're right. It's not Vienna, but it's not Kyiv either.
Do you think housing would come out worse in Poland than places like Russia or Turkey if it was measured correctly?
Housing is pretty bad in Poland overall. Cheapest apartments are also 2+ hours away from any work opportunities. I don't know enough about the Turkish or russian markets to have an opinion, though.
What part of tiny pie charts was necessary? Just make a heatmap but in dots.
A histogramme would have been great. The map doesn't bring much.
Geezus Lisbon, get your shit together.
"Wow can't be fun to live in Tiran- holy fuck Lisbon!"
Tirana got crazy quick. 2 years ago we rented a 3 bedroom in the center for €850/month. Now you frequently see 1 bedrooms further out for €1200.
lisbon 🥀🥀
RIP Lisbon
Investment funds hoarding all houses on the market. Entire buildings getting purchased and people evicted, just to transform them in to another boring AirBnB or hostel.
I can't speak for the other countries, but HOW IN THE FUCK would you even find a 1 bedroom apartment in Berlin?
Also, the average salary isn't what someone living in a 1 bedroom apartment would earn.
I'm over 40, working as an IT sysadmin, and just recently started making an average salary for Germany.
The average is skewed heavily by the top 10% who make a lot more than everyone else.
If you want to discuss housing prices, compare with the median instead.
Weird choice to not include cities as big as the capitals. Milan, Zurich and Barcelona would definitely have been interesting.
How you doin Lisbon?
They can't answer. The internet money was used to tip the landlord.
Local politicians seem to be more interested in "unicorn factories" and WebSummit show off events than solving the issues of the people that elected them. Twice. So the voters may not be too bright either.
No but seriously, Lisbon how?
demand
lots of people want to live there. rents go up.
And there are always openings because they all starve to death?
no, the demand is very recent. 10 years ago nobody know wtf lisbon was. now is i very 'hot' place to travel/live, hence the rents skyrocketed.
Looking at this map and its indecipherable piecharts made me go "huh most of the capitals are actually livable" ... then I compared them with the only place where I have an idea of the rent, Copenhagen, and WTF?
I wouldn't even move to Copenhagen, how the fuck are y'all affording these other prices? Undisclosed income? WTF?!?
Average salary is a useless metric. A small number of people make so much money that it raises the "average" to much more than what the "average" worker earns.
#portugalsukablyat
What's going on in Lisbon?
Policies that are too welcoming to expats with high incomes and foreign remote workers that like sunny weather and cheap everything.
Also: air b&b’s and cheap ryanair flights
Terrible charts aside, Bern and Vienna were surprising to me. Good wages? Or rent control laws?
adequate housing supply for the housing demand.
a concept a lot of cities actively refuse to believe is possible by their obsession with limiting development.
for rents to be stable you need 6-7% of available units vacant. almost double that vacancy if you want to drive prices down.
the vacancy rate in many places is like 1%. hence the rents going up super fast YoY. in my city people bid up rent because there are so few apartments available. so it lists for 2800/mo and the person that gets it is paying 3200/mo.
my city builds like 5000 new apartments per year. the population is growing by like 25,000 people per year. so the rent is skyrocketing. we keep adding lots and lots of jobs. every new development is like 5000 jobs, and 100 apartments. where are the other 4900 people going to live?
one reason why vienna is better than other cities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemeindebau
they saw a problem and started building
lol one complex is even called karl marx hof
edit: chart is awful indeed it features capital cities only. Berlin is still cheaper than München. not for a lack of trying tho
Using a pie chart to represent a single (scalar) data point ... Bad map! Bad map!
Around 7% for a 5 bedroom house, including property taxes. I got lucky, landing a $106k purchase and then getting a $110k salary a few years later.
I hate my house, but it's mine and it's 7% of my base salary. It's lower than mine and my employers combined contributions to my rpp and rrsp.
I dread my renewal next summer..
This is a bad "map". The pie charts add clutter to the image, and it's not immediatly obvious how two cities compare. The country borders offer no additional information other than vague context for those who know what countries are located where. Since there is only one datapoint per country, it might as well have been a line of columns showing percentage of salary used by colouring part of the column red. The map medium does not help in anyway to provide the information.
Make sure you get only the largest, densest cities. Perfect.
Maybe a zoomable heat map would've been more fair.