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IDF soldiers are doing speaking events in Canada. Some say they shouldn't be here (www.cbc.ca)

submitted 1 day ago by HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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Violence at a Toronto speaking event has sparked calls for more scrutiny on Israeli soldiers entering Canada, with some saying they should be barred entry or investigated for potential participation in war crimes related to the Israel-Hamas war.

Police arrested and charged six protesters after an event organized by a Toronto Metropolitan University student group Students Supporting Israel (SSI) this month that featured Israel Defence Forces (IDF) soldiers as speakers.

While SSI blamed protesters for a chaotic scene that included screaming and a broken glass door – protesters can be seen on video banging on the venue’s front doors as they are being held off by police — clips shared by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) Toronto show one of the IDF soldiers grabbing and shoving protesters.

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 19 points 23 hours ago

Didn't they get arrested in Brazil, just for going on holiday there?

Why isn't Canada also arresting war criminals?

[–] FelixMortane@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why the fuck are IDF in Canada. Fck all of that always.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Usually they get a bunch of money (and a bunch of PTSD) after committing war crimes for their country.

Most of them fuck off in India for some months to treat their PTSD. No doubt some choose to holiday in other countries, while they mentally process the children that they've murdered.

[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck the IDF and fuck Israel

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Boycott every corrupt bank that funds that repulsive state!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 23 hours ago

You got one that doesn't?

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

clips shared by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) Toronto show one of the IDF soldiers grabbing and shoving protesters.

Oh look, a live demonstration of what they were trained to do—assault foreign citizens on their own soil.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Watch the liberals and conservatives defend this.

[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 5 points 21 hours ago

"IT'S SELF-DEFENSE !"

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 55 points 1 day ago

I really hate how complicit we are in this whole genocide bullshit. Why the fuck are we having the IDF here for speaking events? Fuck these guys and good on those protesters for applying actually useful pressure against them.

Seriously fuck everyone involved in bringing them here.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 day ago

How DARE those People ~~SNIPE Children and Laugh about it Afterwards!~~ Protest!

[–] rjpayne@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Only “some”??

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This is such a bad look for TMU (edit: honouring IOF soldiers at planned events on campus)

[–] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

say that on the Toronto Subreddit and you'll get downvoted and eventually banned. They're incredibly pro-zionist over there.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Good to know, thanks. I left reddit 2 years ago. That's a good tell of how toxic it currently is

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Speaking events on unspeakable acts.

[+] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -30 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Canada is a free country, and the definition of "IDF soldier" could include pretty much every Israeli given that military service is compulsory there.

The whole reason there needs to be a Jewish state is because there have been times in the past when Jews were not allowed into countries because of antisemitism. So congratulations, you've only justified the existence of Israel through your racist actions.

Read the story of the MS St. Louis, the Voyage of the Damned. It's a mark of shame that Canada was one of the countries that turned away Jewish refugees, most of whom were later killed in the holocaust.

Once again, antisemitism has become popular and racists are pushing for Canada to go back to this shameful kind of behavior.

Jews are welcome in Canada and fuck you if you think otherwise. We aren't some authoritarian country that rejects entry based on racism.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago

As expected, here you are to defend the IDF as always. Fuck off, Zionist.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jews are welcome in Canada. Zionists can fuck off and die.

[+] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So only "the good ones" are allowed?

This is typical of the way racists think,.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Zionism isn't a race, and white Christian Zionists are welcome to fuck off and die as well

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Thanks for proving that you're in a hate group.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Says the one who defends a hate group disguised as a military force.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Naw, thanks for proving you're an idiot though

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

"Some Nazis are good Nazis"

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -3 points 17 hours ago

I know that you think there are good people in an ideology that rationalizes hatred towards Jews.

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nice Germans who who are respectful and tolerant are welcome. Nazi Germans get shot at. That's what your granddad would probably say. Listen to granddad.

[+] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My grandfather actually prevented Nazis from getting shot. They had surrendered and some others wanted to shoot them anyway. By preventing some Nazis from getting shot, my grandfather prevented a war crime from happening.

I'm not so naive as to believe it went this way everywhere during the war. In fact I know a guy from my home town who killed a civilian in Italy for no reason. Just an old guy walking down the road killed for no reason. There was no court martial, he just got chewed out by his CO and they moved on. So there was a war criminal living my home town. The other old fellas never talked to home but most people didn't know anything about what he did in the war.

So I understand that not everyone that fought in WWII (the "good" war) were good people. There were many war criminals on the allied side, we just don't talk about it much. But my grandfather was a good man for preventing those soldiers from being executed. I felt like I owed it to him to learn about why Germany gave into the Nazis.

I'm seeing the people go down that same path today. The same rationalizations for antisemitism the Nazis used are being used again. It's shameful that the younger generation can't pick up a history book and see the mistakes they're making. Why would you want to be the antisemitic generation?

I've also looked at the photos of German cities at the end of the War. They're the same as photos of Gaza today. This is what hatred leads to. The German people were able to move past the cycle of hatred and become a prosperous country.

Right here I'm not seeing people wanting to move past their hatred and build something better. It seems people don't want to build a prosperous Palestinian state, they just want to stay in a cycle of hatred and violence forever.

You may feel like reconciling with Israelis is weak, but the alternative is another war like the one we just witnessed happening again. Is that what you want? The real weakness is wanting more Palestinians to die for the sake of some manufactured hatred of Jews.

[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Such gaslighting. Much wow. Very gross.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 hours ago

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

I would certainly say that anyone coming over for the explicit purpose of representing the IDF in some way is "IDF soldier" enough to ban. And I would further argue that anyone serving in the most recent conflict may need to be investigated further before being allowed in.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Conflating Jews with the IDF is a horrible, one might even argue antisemitic thing to do. They're murderers and genociders and you shouldn't be so quick to throw your lot in with them.

They should all be in prison.

[–] skeptomatic@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

No need to argue. It's antisemitic.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Jews are not "welcome in Canada" because Jews are not foreign to Canada. Canada is home to Jews who live their lives openly and safely as Jews to the full extent they wish to practice their identity. Our free liberal and multicultural Canada is a promise that Jews don't need a "Jewish" apartheid genocidal state to live free and safely as Jews. No militaristic ethnostate shithole bunker of a country can be a better choice for Jews than our country and it's a disgrace and offence to Canada to imply that there is a place safer for Jews than our modern Canada.

Any peace loving Israeli is also welcome to our free country, same as people of any other foreign nationality. The only thing democratic minded Canadians demand is that we don't let in war criminals. Nothing more and nothing less than applying to Israelis the exact same standards we apply to others. Anyone advocating genocide and apartheid should expect Canadians to stand tall against them.

[–] BC_viper@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Nothing wrong with being Jewish. There is something wrong with the Isreal government. Fuck them.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We aren't some authoritarian country that rejects entry based on racism.

agreed! ethnostates should not exist.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The whole reason there needs to be a Jewish state is because there have been times in the past when Jews were not allowed into countries because of antisemitism. So congratulations, you’ve only justified the existence of Israel through your racist actions.

Humanity doesn't need any aparteid ethnostates, especially forcibly installed where other people already lived.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a way to overstate the issue. Nobody is saying Jewish/Israeli people shouldn't be allowed in Canada. We are saying that IDF mf'ers, who've been caught on camera murdering Palestinians, should be visiting Canada at all.

Please try to make sure your arguments are based on facts and not your logical falacies.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago

Please try to make sure your arguments are based on facts and not your logical falacies.

Back at you. Have these soldiers been caught on camera doing anything illegal? Our society is base on the ideal of innocent until proven guilty. The call is for Israelis to be assumed guilty until proven innocent. We don't treat people from other countries that way.

Would you think it's acceptable to treat people coming from Sudan this way? Why not?

It's obvious to anyone outside your little bubble the discrepancies between how you want Israelis treated and how you want people from other countries treated is because of ethnicity. You want a racist immigration policies, but have rationalized in your mind why that's acceptable. The same rationalizations that all racists use.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed because ALL JEWS Murder Civilians! It's a NORMAL Jewish thing and Anyone who thinks Otherwise HATES JEWS!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 day ago

There is no proof that the Israelis in the article committed war crimes.

So you've already crossed a line by assuming all soldiers in the IDF are war criminals, and since military service is compulsory in Israel, pretty much all Israelis have served in the IDF at some time in their lives. So you've rationalized that all Israelis are war criminals, so that's 30% of all Jews are war criminals.

Maybe in your little bubble these rationalizations about 30% of all Jews being war criminals is somehow distinguishable from antisemitism. But in the real world, making rationalizations about Jews being evil is called antisemitism.