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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 165 points 2 months ago (17 children)

I know that she's just lying and being a piece of shit as usual.

That being said, could you not lie better? Saying that every order the president gives is lawful is such a 5 year old's understanding of how the government works. It's such a naive thing to say.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 70 points 2 months ago (2 children)

These people have the mental acuity of 5 year olds so no. And no offense meant to 5 year olds.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're not far off. The majority of my sperm donors siblings didn't finish high school, and are so deep in the MAGA trash, it's embarrassing to call them relatives...

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Bagdad Barbie didn't get her job by being smart, that's for sure.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It ain't her looks either.
She's like the third lady down the line at a bar.

(I know it is her looks. These people just have horrible taste)

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Its her loyalty.

After pence didnt carry thru jan 6 the way trump wanted, his number 1 criteria for his cronies is loyalty.

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[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's even more sinister than that. She is parroting Nazi propaganda written by Carl Schmitt which claims that the ultimate authority for moral and legal decision resides with the 'sovereign leader' and therefore anything that the leader decides is good and legal.

I looked for a first or second degree source to get the exact wording, but they're all paywalled behind academic journals. Behind the Bastards did a set on him

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[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Everything Obama said was legal because... Gestures to the photo

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lying badly is the point. They looked at 1984 as a guidebook.

Except that I think they overextended themselves. They jumped there too fast and nobody is buying it.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

unfortunately, so many people actually are buying this shit

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I know that she’s just lying and being a piece of shit as usual.

She's not though. The supreme court says the president is above the law, remember? It is impossible for him to issue an illegal order, because the law does not apply to him. Jeez, get on board with the monarchy already.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

SCOTUS ruled he cannot be held accountable when he does something illegal, not that the actions themselves are legal.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Which just goes to show what a stunning piece of shit decision it was.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

It's what fascists believe, and what fascists can do is only limited by what they're allowed to get away with. So far, that's been pretty much everything.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 109 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Remember when Nixon said that and it ended his presidency?

[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Don't worry, they're not. That's not going to happen.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Yeah. Nowadays it's just another section of the GOP letterhead.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 2 months ago

It has been the unironic goal of conservatism to make sure another Nixon won't happen by making their presidents above the law.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago

That's why Fox News was created in the first place. All those Nixon lickers went to work there to set up propaganda for shitheads and after thirty years - BINGO

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

Louis XIV: "L'état, c'est moi."

Nixon: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."

Karoline Leavitt: "Your mom did."

[–] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Pepperidge Farms doesn't remember, following a settlement out of court for an undisclosed amount.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

If you're talking about the "If the President does it it's not illegal" quote, that came from an interview between Nixon and David Frost which occurred after his presidency was already over.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 2 months ago

Do you see that? That's the hallmark of totalitarianism: "this one man is the law".

[–] LaserTurboShark69@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Newsmax is in our shitty video rotation on our work TVs. For those that are fortunately unaware, Newsmax is bottom of the barrel conservative propaganda garbage.

They have been milking every last drop out of this video the Democrats put out encouraging service members to ignore unlawful orders as if it's blatant sedition or some sort of call for revolution. It's literally just a reminder for troops to follow the law and the fact that the magasphere is taking it as a political attack is incredibly telling.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I mean the courts have already determined that several orders the president has given are illegal.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And yet nothing of substance has happened. Fun system we've got eh

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[–] Xella@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what it is but this woman's dumb face and little smirks of arrogance send me into a fit of rage every time I see her. I would rather look at Trump's dumbass face than hers. I can't wait to never see her again.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's because you know she isn't demented or a sociopath (at least not at the level of der rapist). So she's just literally talking shit all day long and never faces any repercussions for it.

It's a life of disgusting hypocrisy and it's horrifying to watch.

[–] bomberesque@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"When the President does it, that means it is not illegal" - Richard Nixon 1977

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[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Pam, you got a little shit on your nose there."

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[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jesus fucking christ every time I hear about this person i want to claw a hole in the wall and escape through it.

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did she actually say that last line?

[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well she technically said "all orders the president has given" which is different but also incorrect.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Not humor.

Fascism.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (43 children)

are you there yet America? or is there yet another fascist mark you need to pass before you call for a general strike or at least do a "no king" thingy on a weekday?

[–] derry@midwest.social 9 points 2 months ago

"Hi, this is America. We can't come to the phone right now. Leave your name number and country of origin so we can deport you later. K, thx, bye"

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the same as saying God cannot be evil because he is good by nature.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's exactly that. They're literally trying to bring back "divine right of kings."

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[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Prior to the Jan 6 Trump Terrorist Overthrow attempt, he was asked multiple times if he intended to have a peaceful transfer of power.

The same types of “he didn’t mean it” and “he’s the president, he can” arguments were used and then bam! He committed treason that day and most days and we all collectively clutched our pearls. Now we’re letting it happen again but in a worse way.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

To be fair the US military has never in more than isolated cases cared whether a order is "lawful" long history of gleefully committing "crimes".

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 months ago

There is no confusion. The military will obey.

[–] webp@mander.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

In my house when we caught the dog munching on cat turds, we would say "leave it"

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

The king's order might be lawful according to his laws, but not necessarily according to the constitution?

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

She must be paid well to talk so much shit out of her neck

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