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Kyiv has been offered a “Kremlin peace plan” under the guise of negotiations. The US and Russia have reportedly prepared a peace plan for Ukraine that would involve Kyiv meeting the Kremlin’s maximalist demands, says Christopher Miller, a correspondent for the Financial Times.

At the same time, Reuters sources report that the US indicated to President Volodymyr Zelenskyy that Kyiv should accept Washington-prepared frameworks for ending the war with Russia. It remains unclear what security guarantees would be given for Kyiv, as there is no evidence that the Kremlin has abandoned its imperial ambitions.

Earlier, Axios wrote that Washington and Moscow were discussing a new peace plan to end Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget a big part of the deal: Putin won't show pictures of Trump sucking off Bubba.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

As if AI can't do that already. Nobody on either side will believe anything offered as evidence, because it's just so easy to fake. He'll never suffer any consequences for his lifetime of criminality and lies.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Creating photos that will actually pass real scrutiny hasn't happened yet. That's why. Can it fool the general populace who would look at it for no more than 1 second? Sure. But that's a low bar.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 1 points 11 hours ago

Trump has already released all sorts of fake photos, and as with his words, it doesn't matter if it's true or not, the purpose is only to influence or fool the target audience for just long enough for them to dismiss reality.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, why hasn't anyone made this already actually?

Don't forget, he's doing the Hitler playbook 1:1. And Hitler did one thing good: he killed Hitler. Just saying, there's still hope.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

How is the orange cancer telling Zelenskyy what Putin told him to say with that Russian dick in his mouth?

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stupid title made it sound like Ukraine made the offer.

I'm trying to figure out if that was intentional, or they're just really fucking bad at their job.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So basically, allow the invaders to invade your country without resistance?

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Yes, but under the promise that you won't be under any kind of protection if it happens again in a few years.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

More: "Make this retroactively legal so we can avoid war crime trials and damages".

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then wait for them to do it again in about 10 years to grab for even more. It's not a peace plan, it's surrender.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago

"Make Russian your official language!"

10 Years Later

"We must invade and claim territory, the majority of the population speaks Russian so obviously it's already Russia"

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 200 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Fundamentally unserious "just admit defeat" type of offering. The real signal is that the US is still a painfully unreliable ally.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

The United States is still an ally to Ukraine. Our mistake of a President is a criminal and an ally to no one but himself. Even that is a stretch.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 92 points 2 days ago

The US is a shit stain on the world stage.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The same type of plan the west and in fact China and Russia back up for palestinians. Both Ukraine and Palestine should not give up a single inch of land to the occupiers and desfinitely not surrended armed resistance

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

God damn right.

[–] ICCrawler@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

And yet, for being so painfully unreliable, especially with the ruling parties flip-flopping back and forth so much, USA aid is still sought after. 🙄

I imagine as Zelensky has said so many times before, Ukraine won't cede shit. Hopefully, he tells them both to go kick rocks.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Why wouldn't Ukraine take anything the US is willing to give? Worst case scenario, they don't give anything and you're in the same place you started.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 18 points 2 days ago

It's like Smeagol/Gollum. You might need them for certain shit, but you know it's going to end in tears.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 day ago

Zelenskyy better say thank you!

[–] Nerrad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Every month I buy a field med kit for Ukraine through White Stork. I am so sorry about Trump, Ukraine. So utterly sorry.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 83 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It is said to have been inspired by the Trump administration’s efforts to broker a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.

That explains a lot. Basically "reward the aggressor" and "prevent any possibility for future armed resistance"

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Also “create a news event that will make Trump look like he’s accomplished something,” non matter how meaningless it is on the ground.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 day ago

Putin just keeps grabbing us by the Trump.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"You can have peace. Just surrender to our rule!"

Reminder that bullying exists from the school yard all the way to international politics.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 1 day ago

That's because the bullies never matured past the school yard.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I for one prefer full scale war than this.

SLAVA UKRAINI!

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When will someone explain to Donald that Russia only respects power. Always has always will.

Slap them hard enough and often enough and THEN negotiate.

Maybe a tomahawk to one of Putins personal villas?

[–] collar@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Trump admires this. He doesnt see Putin as an enemy, but an inspiration. Same reason MBS was welcomed the way he was at the White House, while people like Zelenskyy are mocked and scolded when they arrive.

[–] blave@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can hear Zelenskyy laughing from here

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

“Oh wait you’re serious let me laugh harder” - Zelenskyy, pribably

[–] card797@champserver.net 14 points 1 day ago
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Does anyone think Ukraine is going to roll over for trump?

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

Vlad and Donnie don’t know peace, they only know vassals

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 8 points 1 day ago

It's going to collapse about the same way soon enough too.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 day ago

What the hell do you even mean by this? In what way is it acting not like it always has?

US sees their cementing the occupation in Palestine and wants to do the same here.