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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 93 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Meanwhile he's still there.

And let me be clear. I'm sick tired of all this "he's the one bad guy" idea. He's the shitty tip of the massive shit-iceberg of what is happening in the US. The Rep are stealing the whole fucking country and turning the population in legions of ignorant bigots.

If this keep going. History will be what they decide.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You missed a golden opportunity to say "shit-berg" just thought you should know

[–] SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Shit birds of a feather...

[–] Heliumfart@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

That was my exact thought.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

right you are... which is why I see no way out of this for Americans without a civil war

there can be no reasonable negotiation when one part says "let's negotiate" and the other one says "no, you die or we kill you, end of discussion"

[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)

The huge problem here, is a bunch of people who arent maga, will refuse to fight together, making any civil war a trivial win for the magas who are ready to fall in line.

Here we are on a decentralized platform filled with idealists who literally hate any other leftists or center people who don't align with them 99.99999% on every single issue under the sun.

Division is often a bullshit word to encourage compromising with those that cannot be compromised with. Its super fucking relevant here though.

The infighting will mean an instant loss.

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[–] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Truly. The delusional people online chriping up about "wrong side of history" grind my fucking gears.

Talk about premature celebration.

Yall literally do not have a plan to stop him yet. The fuck you mean he'll go down in history books this way or that way.

Bitch he's your president right now.

You need to deal with that, and the fascist republicans first.

Right now, they're winning and robbing you blind simultaneously.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trump will become the symbolic image of this period of American history

But the most prominent part of this period of political history is the fact that America allowed this idiot into office in the first place.

The dumb part is not that Trump is who he is ... the dumb part is that a whole mass of people, professionals, academics, politicians and leaders either helped, supported or stood by to let this dumb leader into the highest office and keep him there ... and to say the least, the American people who all debated among themselves endlessly to the point of allowing this dumb leader to their highest office.

Trump is dumb sure .... but the dumbest part of this whole thing is that an entire country paved the way for this one dumb leader to represent them all.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

the dumb of the many outweighs the dumb of the few (or the one)

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Trump will become the symbolic image of this period of American history

Yup.

Our legacy in the history books is tied to Trump and the future is going to view us as a generation of bumbling fools. Garbage people. That's our historic legacy.

A very embarrassing time to be an American.

[–] jaaake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I agree with all of this, but when people talk about Nazis, they mostly talk about Hitler. Only historical scholars talk about how the Nazi party was the largest democratically elected political party in the German parliament during the Weimar Republic. Only deep study starts to discuss the capitalist influence of steel and coal magnates and companies like Deutsche Bank pressuring President Hindenburg to instill Hitler as chancellor.

Make no mistake, we won't learn from this. The overwhelming narrative will be "somehow, the emperor returned." I pray we make substantive changes to our government to prevent the overreach that the office of president is currently exhibiting. It's insane that everyone is watching multiple blatantly illegal things occur daily, but the Supreme Court has ruled that it is impossible for the president to be on the wrong side of the law. I can see that changing if we ever regain control of the executive branch, but I think the general public will eventually come to think of this era as Trump being a Hitler like figure who shoulders almost the entirety of the blame for what has happened and what is yet to come.

[–] pno2nr@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't actually Trump me, I am way older than 13.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

dark. accurate. excellent.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Trump means fart in the UK

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

For me, as a European, Trump genuinely isn't a whole lot worse than the previous American presidents. Pretty much all of them were war criminals who actively worked to make Europe weak and divided.

If anything, with Trump we're getting closer to a federal Europe than ever before. I'm not necessarily saying I want a federal Europe. Regardless of that, USA worked tirelessly for decades to make sure it's not formed. That's one good argument in favor.

Just in case, this isn't meant to portray the current US president in any positive light. I highly doubt that's even possible.

[–] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Well y'all can have him. Right now that pedophile is putting hard working people out of work and letting the poorest among us miss meals all while he rounds up people with darker skin than him to make them disappear. I'm really much more concerned with the evil he is doing here at home than the federalization of Europe. Plank in your own eye and all that.

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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 weeks ago

You dirty fucking Trump

[–] Tommelot@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Elected by the American people... Twice!"

It's hard to undersell how important that last bit is. Americans want to blame Trump for their gut feelings and pretend it wasn't them who fucked up.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Gotta remember that "elected" in USA means that some minority of the population voted for him in the very few states where voting matters at all.

Only 22% of the population voted for this guy (77 million out of 344 million).

The belief in "democracy" is part of the scam.

[–] QuantumTickle@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

"to Trump" used to mean to overpower, to outsmart, or to otherwise invalidate your enemies.

I can't use it that way anymore. To me it means to backstab, betray, or sell out for a trinket not even any real gain.

Trump is a traitor to the American people.

[–] bremen15@feddit.org 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There are so many assumptions in here.

  1. America will be relevant in the future.
  2. Common people will talk about America or its history several generations down the line.
  3. No one worse will have come along and trumped what Trump does.
[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Of course people will talk about American and its history several generations down the line, the same way we still talk about the Ottoman Empire.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
  1. Assumes Trump’s and Republican actions won’t be whitewashed by the establishment and swept under the rug should we elect a Democrat/liberal.
  2. Assumes we don’t have an autocracy that prevents us from doing anything about it anyway.
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[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“To Trump” already means “to fart” in some parts of the world.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Now it can mean more!

"I trumped, then went to the bathroom and took a massive trump."

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Trick-taking card games in shambles rn

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He really trumped that up, didn't he?

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

No again for the hundredth time trump isn't a unique evil for America outside the norm he's the norm for the American empire and its greedy imperialist history.

[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm afraid not. As crazy as it might sound now, in like 20-30 years you'll see an aircraft carrier, a hospital, a school, etc. named after him and people being nostalgic about his regime. Just look at Ronald Reagan

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"Trump card" will mean cards that you hide under the table or up your sleeve.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Or... Once he's gone and things settle down for a bit, he'll only be remembered through a couple of weird memes.

I don't trust the intelligence or rationality of people anymore to believe they'll learn from this.

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)
[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The way things are going in the future history will just be propaganda decided by the racist sexist pedofile billionaire tech bros and the AI they’ve programmed with their ignorance narcissism and bigotry.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So the future will be exactly like the past but with "AI".

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It already means I betrayed you in French...

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume there a) will be history books or b) they'll not maintain his personality cult after he dies to maintain the new "status quo".

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I simply hope the second wake-up call finally works. Mamdani's victory is a start.

[–] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 5 points 1 week ago

Is it bad that I'm not sure which specific event we're talking about here because so many could fit?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not even just treachery, just a cheap sellout

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Trump will go down in history as the last American president.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Will that happen?

So far, kids are fully indoctrinated and history completely sane-washed about all the atrocities the USA has committed domestically and abroad.

I have no reason to believe the Pedophile president would be treated any differently

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

His name is already synonymous with "stupid". And I'm not really exaggerating that.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Finally the Arnold family can rest easy and pass on the torch to the Trumps.

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

"He trumped all over U. S. A."

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I call "taking a dump" as "taking a huge donald" and it's sort of stuck now.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

They mean he'll be the new quisling.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

He will be like the boogeyman. Young girls will run away when they hear his name guarding themselves so he can't grab them by the pussy from the shadows.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 2 points 1 week ago

Not in american history class, obviously. But the resto the world, sure.

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