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[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 82 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

My dental hygienist actually explained it to me one time.

It has nothing to do with "toughening up your gums" like I used to think. Food gets trapped, bacteria grows, and your gums become inflamed to combat the bacteria. So now your gums are constantly full of blood protecting you from infection and when you do floss (or someone flosses for you), they're going to bleed a lot.

I started flossing habitually every night and wouldn't you know it I've only ever bled or felt pain from flossing when I miss some stupid popcorn shell thats wedged itself down low (which also goes to show, you don't event need to do a particularly good job flossing for it to work 99%)

A bonus tip for folks that don't like garotting their fingertips every night by wrapping them in 6 loops of floss just to get some tension: tie a short piece into a loop, double knotted, and you just pull the loop tight between two fingers. No finger pain, no extra appliance, and it uses less floss.

Extra bonus tip: get proper butlerweave floss. The plastic ribbon bullshit is absolute nonsense. Like trying to wash dishes with a zip lock bag...

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

They also don't really explain growing up that the floss is supposed to go slightly under your gums, between the tooth and gums where brushes don't get, NOT just getting food from between teeth, but literally under the gum edge.

[–] ThePancakeExperiment@feddit.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

Another tip is to use interdental brushes, never thought I was able to use them properly until I watched a video about it. Was a pain for the first two weeks and got bleeding gums every time, since then no problems at all, I use them in the morning and evening and floss once a day.

[–] n0respect@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

you don’t event need to do a particularly good job flossing for it to work 99%

Quote for visibility. Even a 1-minute runthrough is 99% there.

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Truth. 3 years ago my "New Years Resolution" was to floss every day.

I knew I was going to have to make it obscenely easy to do in order for me to stick with it.

I do a suuuuuper quick run through every morning with a disposable pick BEFORE I brush, and my annual dental visits since have been night and day. I really don't even have to try very hard and my gums don't bleed anymore either!

Its about taking better care of your mouth - not perfect care.

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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 53 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Also dentists: "That'll be $1200. I hope you enjoy the rest of your Monday!"

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 75 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s getting to be that way in the UK too.

It used to be that everyone could get an NHS dentist and get a lot of work done for free but not anymore. I think that we’re still all entitled to an NHS dentist but there aren’t enough of them so only kids have easy access.

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[–] TrippaSnippa@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like this in Australia as well. Teeth are luxury bones and don't deserve to be covered by Medicare it seems.

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[–] protist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I get a cleaning every 4 months but my insurance only covers every 6 months, so I pay for one out of pocket. I go to a very good dentist, and they only charge $170 for a cleaning

[–] Scavenger8294@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you are supposed to clean your teeth 2 times a day

[–] protist@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I do clean my teeth two times a day, and floss regularly. That doesn't totally stop the plaque from building up though. Everybody's biology is a bit different

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[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 44 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

When I was a kid mom and I went to a new dentist. I was a kid and didn’t floss like I should, but this guy kept hitting my gums with the picks and tore up the inside of my mouth. When he was finished, he blamed all the blood on my lack of flossing. Thankfully, when we were driving home mom said, “well we won’t be going back there.” Apparently she also was not impressed with that guy.

Edit: spelling. Dentist did not fart in my mouth. That I know of.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I would go back to the dentist either if they were farting in my mouth

[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

Ducking autocorrect.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Autocorrect striking a comment making fun of an autocorrect. Poetic.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ffs I get back from school to find this out. I'll live up to it: dentist farting in my mouth is such a power move I'd be scared not to go back

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I would be absolutely living if my dentist farted in my mouth! I'd make sure everyone heard about it!

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Livid? Is autocorrect just wreaking havoc on this thread?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Exactly, my bad. If the dentist farted in my mouth I'd really be pissed on.

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[–] Noja@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ClownStatue@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

If you’re referring to the probing of the gums around the teeth, that’s not what this guy did. The blood came from him catching my gums while he was scraping excess tarter off the backs of my teeth. Also never had this amount of blood on a bib after a visit before or after this guy, so I’m sticking with him sucking.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Floss holders are cheap and make it a lot easier to reach the teeth in the back:

Plus you use less floss, and save your fingers.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wow, I’ve seen the disposable ones, but these look much better. Always liked the form factor, but disposable felt wasteful

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah with the disposable ones you throw away a lot of plastic handles. Also with the ones I've used the floss often pulls loose.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just clean them and keep reusing them. I'm cheap like that.

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

My dentist keeps telling me everything is bad. Don't use floss holders, use your fingers. Don't rely on a water pick, use your fingers. They absolutely refuse to believe that using my fingers is difficult for me and it's not a skill issue.

I'm this 🤏 close to a radical sugar free diet because I cannot for the life of me floss to their expectations. It's always wrong.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You realize your dentist doesn't actually have any authority over you, right? Dentists who are friends (heh) of assassins notwithstanding.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Of course, I'm just extremely hesitant to disregard opinions I've paid to hear.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, if the choice is between doing it regularly with a floss holder and struggling to do it with your fingers, the floss holder wins. Do whatever helps you to maintain the habit.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

Just use whatever method works for you, and tell them how often you floss, but not what method you're using. Or lie, as long as it works that's all that matters. Or find a different dentist, I've had several dentists and none of them have been that picky.

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[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Use a water pick. They are superior in every way including less waste. You can use salt water to help your gums as well.

[–] UnrepentantAlgebra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Use both! Water picks are fine but are not a replacement for flossing. Also I lied they are awful and they are basically the thing that convinced me to floss regularly.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

I used to think the same, then I did thorough dental hygiene and the dental visit was remarkably bloodless.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

My weakest gums are weak precisely because I floss there more often.

Those locations happen to be where there's a natural gap between teeth, they're the first place food gets stuck and the first place I have to take a toothpick or floss to. Gentle as I am, that still takes a toll on the gum between them.

There's also been a feedback loop of food getting stuck there making those gaps wider over time, meaning larger food getting stuck and more flossing. Over the course of a few decades, tiny movements add up.

The dentists I've seen are clueless what to suggest; suggesting I floss less would make their heads explode.

[–] nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I've heard good things about water picks.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That what my dentist recommended for similar problems, along with a fix to a filling there that was causing food to get stuck more than expected.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I like mine. Use warm water or it hurts.

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It sounds like either genetics or user error. I have a permanent retainer and I have to floss hard around those teeth to prevent calculus buildup, and their gum line is the strongest in my mouth.

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[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I started actually taking care of me teeth there was a night and day difference between dental appointments where I'd not flossed much or at all since the last appointment and just flossing maybe weekly. Upgrading to daily further improved the experience. Flossing really makes the entire dental process suck so much less and is totally worth it. Also setting a timer to make sure you actually brush for 2 minutes can also be helpful, since you might not realize you've been under-brushing

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I did keto I didn't change anything with my routine, but suddenly my dentist is like "You're doing amazing" and I had my first "no notes" checkup. That all went away when I started eating sugar again... really made me realize we go to all this work scraping shit off our teeth that wasn't supposed to be there in the first place and is killing us. But also, frosting.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

That was a big change I made when I started taking care of my teeth too was reducing my sugar intake. I now pretty consistently stay below the "recommended daily value" listed on the back of every package every day

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 weeks ago

This was the thing that got me consistently flossing. I started using the water flosser and after I found normal flossing easier to implement.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

It also bleeds when you floss yourself after not doing it for a long time

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My dentist does this to me in the past and I would basically be a bloody mess. I just tried flossing regularly for 6 months straight and my next visit was not bloody at all.

[–] Damarus@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Crazy how that works. It's as if dentists actually know what they're talking about. Can't be, can it?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Ugh, I’m 40 now and finally having this problem I have big gaps in my teeth so nothing ever get stuck there thanks to my divorced parents fighting over who pays for braces and it just never getting done.

Now I bleed from this one spot under my gums all the time. It’s not even in a hard to reach place. My body just decided one day “the one, right there, blow it”.

Dentist doesn’t see an infection or anything, I’ve never had a cavity before and still don’t. But time gets us all I guess.

I am so sick of tasting metal all the time!

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