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[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 135 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

So $3300 a month just for having two tesla's? And other debts too? I wonder what debts, since you prioritize the tesla's over them.

Did you skip economics class or did you miss education in general? That this is unsustainable must have been crystal clear long ago

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 73 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yeah this is less annoying Tesla and more real sad American economics. We aren't taught how to manage debt, and this poor fool has ruined at least the next decade because he wanted two new shiny things and the bank said sure.

In 2008 the banks were to blame for sure for giving out bad debt and then gambling on it, but for me it showed how financially illiterate so many Americans are. The simple difference of seeing what the bank says you can borrow, vs what you should borrow are very very very different things.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 25 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

We aren’t taught how to manage debt,

Do people need to explicitly be taught "You bring home $5,000 after taxes. You spend $2000 on rent, $1000 on fixed bills, $1000 on semi-fixed expenses, and $500 on fun. Do not buy a thing that raises your fixed expenses by $2000"?

I guess so.

I mean, I think a lot about a guy I worked with years ago. He said as soon as he turned 18 he got a credit card and maxed it out. No plans to pay it. Just enjoyed having a new TV, clothes, xbox, shoes. And then he got in a lot of trouble, which should have surprised no one. But at least he was getting his life together, ten years after the fact. Though we haven't talked in years. I worry he's a trumper, despite him being hispanic.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

American society tries to force debt on you and they try to hook you as soon as you can legally sign a contract. . When you get into college, you are inundated with offers from tons of CC companies with seemingly good terms but they're actually horrible. It'll say something like 12.9% interest rate, but in the fine print it tells you that it jump to 23.9% if you're late on a payment. One brain fart or patch of bad luck and you're fucked for as long as they can keep you under their foot.

If you're fortunate, you had parents who taught you how to avoid the worst of them and to manage debt. But even so, it's not easy because there are so many traps. Worse still, you have to do it. If you don't get a credit card, you will have a very bad credit rating. That means when you go to buy a car or anything else that has to be financed you will get shit terms. It even makes it harder to get an apartment because the manager will check your credit before offering you a lease.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 13 points 3 weeks ago

If you’re fortunate, you had parents who taught you how to avoid the worst of them and to manage debt.

My parents didn't especially go out of their way to teach me to be frugal, but I guess I learned from watching them. The idea of buying something I can't actually afford on a high interest credit card makes my skin crawl.

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[–] Thassodar@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't get why they were approved for 72k when they still owed 44k on the other car. Unless they had a rich cosigner the financial company is partially to blame for seeing their outstanding debt and still trusting them with another 70k.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 3 weeks ago

Oh you can be approved for a ton of debt that you can't actually afford. Banks take the position that it's your debt and you can do what you want so long as you can make the payments. They don't care if you spend 90% of your income on your debt payments. (Remember they get money from the interest so the worse you are at repaying the better it is for them).

When I got my mortgage they approved us for 2.5 times what we asked for it. It was asinine. We took a much more modest house and have been happy with that.

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[–] Poayjay@lemmy.world 125 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Food $200

Data $150

Rent $800

Candles $3,600

Utility $150

someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my family is dying

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I was able to reduce my candle expenses by 10% by switching to unscented candles!

[–] manxu@piefed.social 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are they unscented or are you just having COVID-19??? :-/

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 18 points 3 weeks ago

Have you tried, I don't know, buying less food?

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 92 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Jesus fuckin christ, so many layers of memes!

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

J. Jonah Jameson, laughing maniacally.

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[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 76 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

This dude is paying >50% more on fucking car payments than I do on my mortgage, on top of other debts. Who is lending these people money? Like I make okay money, but I'm still driving a 13 year old vehicle and not feeling like I'm in a position to take on a car payment in this economy.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

I think people who shouldn’t are just taking higher interest loans that the dealerships are pushing on them because they are higher risk. They want status symbols and are too dumb to realize they can’t afford them. The car dealer pushes it through because there’s not really any risk for them.

I heard they’re doing ten year loans now for some cars that are around $100k, so I think people are falling for that, then wanting the next new thing and rolling the negative equity into their next one.

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[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This isn't a cybertruck or Tesla issue. This is a stupidity issue.

[–] edgarde@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But they're posting to Cybertruck Owners Only in order to hear from someone with good judgement.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

He's hoping for a clever solution, like mining Dogecoin with the Cybertruck battery for free heating.

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[–] Skarklette@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

everyone who buys one should be buying two, they are very social creatures and can get depressed if they don't have a friend

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[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 43 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But there is only one cyber truck....

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[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Uh, looks like 1 cyber truck and 1 model Y. Still appropriate for debt ridiculousness.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

He has TWO luxury cars and then he's "scraping by for too long"?

Why did you finance two luxury cars when you need only a means of transportation?

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Going into debt to buy not only one, but two teslas? I'll call it bad investment.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

You never know, maybe they'll become classics in the future holds back laughter

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

$110k in two cars that aren’t even speciality cars. I mean, if one were a Porsche and the other some kind of Super Splat Pack Snakebite Gangrene Edition of an American muscle car I could see those prices, but at least with the latter two you’re paying for your ego and not Musk’s.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

I ate ramen for breakfast today.

I want these people off my planet entirely.

[–] kelseybcool@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's called the "Super Splat Pack ScorpionSting Gangrene Edition" and in 30 years it'll be worth almost exactly what I paid for it minus 90% depreciation thank you very much

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 30 points 3 weeks ago

I checked KBB and indeed the Cybertruck sells for around $72k in the condition stated.

You guys say he is a moron, but the rest of the Cybertruck buyers that would pay that kind of money for a used CT is just as dumb.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

Okay, I'm going to leave aside the fact that he's got two Teslas, which I hate with a passion.

He literally said he's about even on the Kampfwagen.

The model Y is, for all intents and purposes, all the car anyone really needs (if he NEEDED a truck, he'd have a real truck). He's upside down on it, sure, but there's nothing to do about that unless he can pay off extra. However, he can keep making the payments and just driving it. It should still have several years of battery and drivetrain warranty unless Tesla's is shorter than the industry standard 8 years.

Sell the fucking Panzer and drive the Y until you've managed to pay off your stupid debt, numbnuts. I WISH my debt problem was that easy. My ex put me deeeeeep into 5 digits of debt with constant manipulation (it started off with her getting pregnant "on the pill" so she could start threatening me with never seeing the baby if I don't do the things she wants me to do) and I have NO assets to show for it. Nothing to sell. My car cost me under 2k. Now totals to around 3k with the registration, insurance, maintenance and repairs I've done. My only solace is that even after I get everything paid off, nobody's giving me a loan for another 5 years till the debt registry entries are cleared. I literally can't get into more debt anymore, other than the interest on old shit, which luckily is capped too.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Except that CyberTruck owners are not allowed to resell for a certain number of years, according to their contract.

Edit: Apparently the contract was only for one year, and it has since been discontinued.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it was one year, and this was removed because it turns out speculating and flipping the Cybertruck was not a thing.

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[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 25 points 3 weeks ago

This is like that meme where its like, normal debt normal debt 8000 dollars a month on magic cards or whatever, help me my family is starving

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 25 points 3 weeks ago

my other debts

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

IDK, have you tried sports betting?

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Why would anyone take two loans to buy two cars? Is this normal in America?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Car loans are depressingly common. It's like normal people haven't heard of second hand vehicles.

Two loans is pants on head territory though, even for the US.

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[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Many new vehicles are financed, it's why most ads here (Canada) will give you the biweekly price. Annoyingly, when you do go to a dealer, they are usually able to give a better deal when you finance compared to if you buy outright. The nice thing is though legally we can't be penalized for paying it down early, so there's nothing to stop you from financing and then paying it off.

Car payments are a pretty common thing, $1400 monthly in car payments not so much.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago

Buddy gives twice as much cash to their auto loans and insurance than the median household pays in taxes.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Selling the Cybertruck and keeping the Y would be the wise option.

How is the Y the one he's upside down on?

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[–] SenorSnod@feddit.org 18 points 3 weeks ago

Next post will be: hey is it okay to smoke fentanyl? That slightly deranged guy from the neighbourtent said its fun?

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 weeks ago

Conmen have a name for people like him, it's called "a mark".

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

1400 USD is about 8900 DKK.

This person spends more money on his cars per month than my rent. And he's complaining about being stuck in a financial bind.

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[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Level 7 susceptible in real life.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

How are you in a Cyberjunk owners only group? I'd think that kinda group would be well guarded?

I think his debt is funny. When it's this blatantly their own fault/avoidable I can't help but feel schadenfreude. Don't finance a car when you're already in debt, and definitely don't finance two top-spec luxury cars.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bold of you to call them luxury.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

"Luxury" as in "fucking expensive"

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I own a cheapass car. Let me tell you the amount of time I spend worrying about monthly payments on it...0. I own the thing fully.

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