i just really hate snap
I always read 'did not finish'
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
552 points (97.6% liked)
linuxmemes
28059 readers
1080 users here now
Hint: :q!
Sister communities:
Community rules (click to expand)
1. Follow the site-wide rules
- Instance-wide TOS: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
- Lemmy code of conduct: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
2. Be civil
- Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
- Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
- Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
- Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
- Bigotry will not be tolerated.
3. Post Linux-related content
- Including Unix and BSD.
- Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of
sudoin Windows. - No porn, no politics, no trolling or ragebaiting.
4. No recent reposts
- Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
5. π¬π§ Language/ΡΠ·ΡΠΊ/Sprache
- This is primarily an English-speaking community. π¬π§π¦πΊπΊπΈ
- Comments written in other languages are allowed.
- The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
- Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
6. (NEW!) Regarding public figures
We all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations. - Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
- We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
- Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed. Β
Please report posts and comments that break these rules!
Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
The most racing of all the package managers
Or the least.
DNFΒ (abbreviation forΒ Dandified YUM)
These guys at Redhat donβt know how abbreviations work, I guess.
RIP in peace yellow dog linux
I always see "did not find"
dnf5 ist pretty fast, almost pacman/apk level fast
I used to work at the devil and I heard DNF from players all the time. Once I realized DNF was the package manager in fedora (recent switch) I never forgot the command again. It's burned into my brain.
I've been specifically avoiding Ubuntu because of snaps, instead preferring Ubuntu derivatives that don't use it, like Mint and Pop.
And more recently, trying an entirely different approach with Arch.
And yes - I could get rid of snaps in Ubuntu if I wanted. But everything is just a little more annoying when you are going against the conventions of your distro.
You could try Debian, it's basically Ubuntu without snaps.
More like Ubuntu is Debian with snaps and a CEO
I could.
Though I suppose it may be semantically more appropriate to say that Ubuntu is Debian with snaps (and with a bunch of other stuff too)
Thank you! It always irritates me when someone does say Debian is Ubuntu but without XYZ... No, Debian was first. Ubuntu is a Debian child that got molded into something that no Linux should ever be..
Linux Mint is Debian with snaps without snaps!
(I am now going to take this opportunity to point you all towards Linux Mint DE (Debian Edition))
switched to Debian from fedora after IBM started sticking their little dick fingers in everything.
little dick fingers
Definitely stealing this
I installed Linux Mint Debian Edition yesterday. I like it so far. Lots better than ubuntu.
I love pop, just so you know π
It's called soda.
They could be talking about bubble wrap to be fair
It's made even worse by some software pretending to be Ubuntu builds but just quietly installing a Snap version instead.
Looking at you, Firefox. π
Switched to EndeavourOS a couple of years ago as my main, and its been amazing. No regrets.
yay
obligatory "something something aur is a haunted wasteland and it's your fault for ignoring the forty warning signs"
I have ubuntu on my server and I really need to switch it. It's such a dick move when you apt install something and it opts for a snap. I just roll my eyes and groan when I think of having to back up EVERYTHING (music, media, dockers configs, compiled projects, random projects, etc) in order to switch the distro. I dont' have the time to do it. It's like nearly 2TB worth of stuff.
Isn't the default installation of Ubuntu to BTRFS? In which case, you should have an @ subvolume with Ubuntu that's mounted to /, and an @home subvolume that's mounted to /home.
Make a new subvolume, install a new operating system into it, and choose that subvolume in the bootloader, should be able to have Ubuntu and 'your favourite OS' (I use Arch btw) living side-by-side with the same home directory.
....you can do that? Huh.
i've been waiting for an update to break Cachy, before reinstalling, but nothing seems to break like my previous Arch based distros. I put BTRFS on everything because snapshots are the best.
Whatβs snap? I use LMDE and i donβt think i have that.
When our powers combine we become....! Ah shit! I need yo reinstall, the snap is reading from the apt folder again!
So, I'm a novice Linux user and have been on Ubuntu for maybe 2 years now. And I'm just starting to hit the SNAPS wall - IE, just a bit too much of what I want doesn't install through snaps. Is there a good progression for my "next distro after Ubuntu?". Still need some training wheels, but ready to take the next step.
Is there a good progression for my "next distro after Ubuntu?".
Yes. Linux Mint has got your back.
I also vouch for Mint in your case because itβs based on Ubuntu there is less of a learning curve than Fedora/OpenSuse
i had to learn linux 25 years ago in college the year i was an engineering undergrad (that sucked. not the work, the people) and i mostly don't want to reinvest the time to learn it again. but mint seems like the right distro for what i want to do.
Look at Fedora or OpenSUSE.
Another vote for Mint. I run Mint on anything graphical and straight Debian on anything headless; ten years ago that was Ubuntu and Debian instead
Where is Nix? Oh right, he's in space, chilling.
nixpkgs is still kicking off their build pipeline, they'll be here in 4 days
I like snaps. The nextcloud snap served me well for a decade at my last job. The ability to put everything required into one snap package and never modify the base system is awesome.
As someone who is new to Linux, with Ubuntu Studio installed on a PC, I have absolutely no idea why Ubuntu is seemingly hated by everyone on lemmy. I just don't get it. Seems to work fine, Installation was easy. Sure I had to tinker to get yabridge going, but that's sorted now
I just don't get it
I have absolutely no idea why Ubuntu is seemingly hated by everyone on lemmy.
It's Snaps.
I mentioned somewhere else that my reason for using Linux is that, when I have a problem, no one designed that problem to extract money from me.
Snaps feel designed to extract money.
The funny part is, I've bought Ubuntu CDs just to support Canonical. I like giving them money.
But Snaps feel like more of the kind of bullshit that I left Windows over, to me.
Snaps redirect some of my software requests from fully free community packages into a partially paid app store. They're not (yet) ripping me off, they just appear to be getting ready to rip me off.
Seems to work fine, Installation was easy.
Yes. Ubuntu is a fine place to start. It was the first Linux distro that really worked for me.
Eventually, down the line, Snap may cause you some headaches, so we generally recommend Mint, which is effectively Ubuntu without Snap.
The anger is just that Canonical keeps claiming to be an ally while appearing to prepare to rip people off by selling other people's work that they gave away for free, for a fee.
For context, many companies that have joined FOSS community have gone in this direction. People can be trustworthy. Corporations cannot, because they get sold or their CEO changes.
meme answer: it's too easy to use
actual answer: it's not optimized for the level of customization your average linux user wants