These people figure everyone else will do the hard stuff, and one day they’ll all come to their senses after rebuilding and realize they need a beans and guns guy. It’s a kind of narcissistic laziness.
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Those fuckers probably have turrets outside their bunkers and will shoot on site.
Turrets run out of ammo eventually they also need a vent for air. Would be real bad if they got blocked.
Plus without supporting infantry you can just roll up behind a very thick steel plate, doesn't matter that it's slow as you can take as long as you like
Without supporting infantry all you need to do is somehow splash some paint on the lenses of their cameras.
Drone with some paint balloons should do.
Get a single back hoe and pour rocks in front of the door.
Nah....the people who fill their bunker with beans and guns are the same people who will use their guns to take from those who build gardens and communities.
In other words, they want all of the benefits of a community without putting in anything in return.
Or to put it even more simply: conservatives.
I've played an enormous amount of post apocalyptic simulations and video games, so I've got some insight on how this typically goes:
The bunkers with beans and guns are rare, but usually whoever is inside died of something really common, like an infection, broken leg or a stroke, and was unable to get medical aid in time.
There's also loot boxes/caches in the woods where you see someone tried to be completely solo and typically "having weapons" is way less valuable than knowing how to use them
The OG meme is right, you need other people in "the apocalypse", going it alone is a death sentence, even basic things can become enormously difficult (many hands make for light work)
Make sure at least one of the people you know is a doctor, surgeon, or nurse of some kind
And if the "guns-people" ever band together (band-its) and try to take stuff away, they typically don't have coordinated field tactics or military discipline, it's a slog but battling the cannibals with a regular army does eventually result in their extinction
Risky game when the community garden people know which parts of the plants are toxic or not. Come try this "sloe berry" jam I made...
Well yes, we need the vents for his bunker, where else do we empty the latraines?
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Or fight fascists to prevent a doomsday. Instead of voting them into office.
There's a significant percentage of preppers who want doomsday to come, because they think they will get to be a leader & have an "I told you so" moment, instead of the community seizing the spoils of their preparation.
They all think they'll be Immortan Joe, and not the legless dude living in the bombed out sewer begging for water.
Or raiders in the best case. People with guns and small amount of food but nothing else really.
And most preppers prepped for the wrong doomsday. Many got screwed during covid because they only prepped for war. It would also be shit if you prepped your entire life, spent thousands on it, then it to never happen. And most preppers think they prepped properly, but they lack the intelligence and/or skills to actually use everything they have or they forgot crucial components.
They rioted because they couldn't go to Dennys or get professional haircuts, they weren't prepared for anything.
I have to say, i was brexit prepping for a while and when covid hit it was a little satisfying sitting there with my well stocked pantry and decent stocks of toilet roll while other people were queueing out of the supermarkets
Fair, but that's not doomsday prepping. I also have a well stocked pantry in case the payment system gets hacked and shops can't open, or something similar. That's always smart, to prepare for at least a week food wise. But that's different than hoarding war meals, weapons, combat gear, water purification systems, diesel generator and loads of fuel, etc. in your backyard bunker.
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Accelerationnists. Interestingly they come in all flavours of the political spectrum.
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We all gotta start punching more fascists.
(I can't fight and I'm weak shit, so can someone throw in an extra hit on my behalf please? I'll get you a milkshake as thanks.)
Same with me. But for that they invented tire irons and baseball bats. Tasers work nicely too. As a hacker you can do damage to them as well, financially for example. There are more ways to hurt them. If can't pack a punch like me, think outside the box, be creative.
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Porque no los dos?
Community engagement is vital, and we should all be involved with outreach, education, and mutual aid.
I think we all understand that we're on our own now, and if we want our communities to survive and thrive we need to take ownership and contribute.
But it's naive as fuck to pretend we won't be on our own protecting those communities as well. Arm up, train up.
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Let's be honest, if there is a global apocalypse and the only people left are the billionaires in their bunkers, how long are they really going to hang around doing their own laundry, eating canned food, and watching reruns?
They will be rapidly killed by their private military teams and a bunch of warlords will break out from that.
Iirc they are thinking about putting some kind of Killswitch collar to their "bodyguards" in "exchange" of a place in the bunker should an event arrive for this reason.
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Maybe learn Vietnamese. They fought the French, the US, China, and Cambodia one after the other, and won. They must know some shit.
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Learned how to chop wood today
Doing a light version of the cabin in the woods thing ("F*** this city! I'm gonna go live in a cabin in the woods!")
Interestingly enough I am doing this cause I'm a musician and need a place where I won't bother anyone with my noise. Two birds one feeder, as the saying goes
Haven't heard the phrase, "two birds, one feeder," but I am partial to "feeding two birds with one scone."
Oooh, that's much better! I'll be using that!
Damn, really sounds like you were just listing off all the traits of Anarchism
Join your local CERT, learn and get free stuff and meet people
What does CERT mean in this context? I'm only getting tech-related results. (Computer emergency response team.)
In this context, Community Emergency Response Team.
Geeks helping geeks?
Is that a fish smoking a cigarette? With its eye?
Yes? So what? Don't your fish do that?
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Not just their professional trades. Cultivate skills. Cooking, repair, gardening, etc.
Damn.....that's just about perfect
If you aren't armed and prepared to defend yourself and your community, you are just gathering resources and slaves for the people that are armed and want your stuff and want to turn you into slaves or corpses.
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Guns and bunkers would help at first though
Hey, you're just preparing for a different doomsday. How do you know they're not preparing for an animal uprising, where all the bears, elk, and wolves team up to eliminate their human overlords? In that scenario, preparing hunting material makes tons of sense.
Establishing a community garden is a lot of fun actually. We have one in our house but it is not very big so you basically get a single vegetable every now and then but the whole working with the ground, keeping the irrigation system intact is soothing.
Where I live we have a CSA farm (Community-owned agriculture). You can join the coop to get a weekly share of veg and either do a day's work on the farm each week, or pay an amount each month. It's honestly amazing, it feels like I've hacked the system. I get cheap, organic veg grown less than a mile away and harvested the day before I collect it and it's upskilling and connecting the local community.
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