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# Rules
1. Any drama must be posted as an observer, you cannot post drama that you are involved with.
2. When posting screenshots of drama, you must obscure the identity of all the participants.
3. The poster must have a credible post and comment history before submitting a piece of history. This is to avoid sock-puppetry and witch hunts.
The usual instance-wide rules also apply.
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Chronicle the life and tale of the fediverse (+ matrix)
Largely a sublemmy about capturing drama, from fediverse spanning drama to just lemmy drama.
Includes lore like how a instance got it's name, how an instance got defederated, how an admin got doxxed, fedihistory etc
(New) This sub's intentions is to an archive/newspaper, as in preferably don't get into fights with each other or the ppl featured in the drama
Tags: fediverse news, lemmy news, lemmyverse
Partners:
* [midwest.social/c/Fediverse](https://midwest.social/c/fediverse)
* [Sub promo](https://lemmy.ca/c/communitypromo)
* [Fedizens](https://lemmy.ca/c/fedizens)
The original community icon is here
This unfolded on "United States | News & Politics@midwest.social". Owner 'seahorse' showing the kind of person they are.
This is not how you run a server.
Edit: link to comment:
So server admins are how we get the Reddit mod experience
Confirmed its real, and now I am blocking that instance. Thanks for the info. There is enough content on lemmy, a few instances can be excluded.
I personally think that's a bit much to block an entire instance over when just one admin is being mildly annoying. Their comment is basically nothing imo lol. Compare that to the OP of this post whose profile picture is a cartoon pony from a children's show having an orgasm.
It's almost like a community made of opinionated nerds loves making fake drama and being whiny bitches in general.
Yeah it’s definitely real, I came across it in my feed before seeing this post. Guy seems like a real arsehole.
yeah i have my problems with midwest. i think a succinct way to put it is that instance does not appreciate the federation process.
"Can't even downvote in Ohio"
For those who don't know what this means, but want to, you can read https://www.distractify.com/p/what-does-ohio-mean-slang and https://www.distractify.com/p/only-in-ohio-tiktok-meme.
TLDR it's a phrase that people use now similar to "Florida man".
I've never blocked an instance.
If I block an instance, that blocks all users too, right?
But it is.
Lemmy isn't set up to create a set of fairly moderated communities with buy-in from users. It is set up so anyone can be a dictator on their own server.
Yup. But thankfully, it's also set up so they can quickly become dictators of their own little desert island.
Users can still quickly leave until they found a fair admin
A fair admin for now.
And when the fair become unfair then we move onto the next, as it should be!
I feel like relying on benevolent dictators only to run communities isn't the best option.
Admins are legally responsible for anything that gets posted on their server, so they require control. They also put in time and money to keep the server running.
There may be other technologies where all-powerful admins aren't necessary, like peer-to-peer networks. But then everything gets much more complicated. No more opening a website and entering username and password, now users need to install a client first and use a private key. It's not clear who is responsible for moderation. Scaling will be much more difficult. Users don't want to store gigabytes of historical data on their devices, so some servers are still needed. The way Activitypub and Lemmy works is really a hybrid between normal websites which is a well-known paradigm, and p2p which is still experimental. The p2p part is only done on the server because it would be too complex otherwise.
This question has been discussed at length in the thread. If people want to boycott Lemmy and switch to Mbin or Piefed, that's their choice, but maybe not relevant in this context?
Their comment here is valuable, posting this screenshot every time they comment seems counter productive.
I'm not saying that admins don't require control. What I'm saying is that there isn't an ability to distribute admin and mod duties on Lemmy in a more granular sense. There is only one admin head or one mod head and that can lead to mod issues the same that Reddit had.
I suppose this could be improved, but not sure how exactly. Afaik there is no issue about this yet, and anyway we lack development resources to implement everything. Sometimes I imagine how much we could achieve if Lemmy had 2000 employees like Reddit.
Afaik there is no issue about this yet
There have been issues with it, with don't somewhat popular instances becoming ghost towns because of admin actions. Part of the problem is that Lemmy out of the box doesn't really allow for anything other than one benevolent dictator.
anyway we lack development resources to implement everything
This is open source. There should be a published plan on development and a call for help to the community. If development can't transfer to a model where multiple groups develop different parts of the development plan, Lemmy isn't going to be able to grow.
We will soon get a new round of funding from NLnet, once that is finalized we will publish a blog post with the milestones.
That's the beautiful thing about lemmy. If I don't like the current dictator, I can easily switch to a more benevolent leader.
Sorry to hear, I love the Lotr memes community
Never too late to make your own. Especially if enough people decide this is worth blocking the instance entirely.
Thank god we’re doing things on more than world
I remember there was a far right mastodon server
Yeah, Truth Social lol
I remember it was smth else
..so was this about his take on the Gaza war? That he thought support for Palestine would lead to a loss of democracy?
No they’re saying that’s what people criticizing the protestors are arguing. I think their take is perfectly acceptable but the power tripping is pretty rough
Yeah, exactly. He's saying that if you vote for Kamala in order to end the genocide in Gaza and prevent Trump from bombing the West Bank, then you're letting the fascists win and democracy is dead. He thinks we should all be apathetic towards Palestine and do nothing as a show of "symbolic" support for Gazans.
