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wtf, Texas

Is even this politicized?

It may never be known exactly how many Texas women have died as a result of the state’s abortion restrictions … And the state is not trying to find out. The Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee, the body responsible for investigating maternal deaths, has announced it is not investigating cases from 2022 and 2023, including the immediate aftermath of the state’s almost-total abortion ban.

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[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 87 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Is even this politicized?

The answer is yes. They are treating ours and our children's lives as nothing more than pawns.

And of course, when the Republicans do heinous shit, they also make sure to shut down or suppress the institutions that are responsible for keeping track of and reporting this information. All so they can have a few more of those green papers and have enough plausible deniability to not disgust their base into turning against them.

Fuck these people. And fuck the doctors too that follow these bullshit laws they know are morally wrong. Just fucking sitting on their hands and letting people fucking die for no good reason. I hope they never get good sleep for the rest of their lives, knowing they could and should have done more.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The victims are the disenfranchised minorities. The doctors (sometimes) are intimidated into compliance because they don't want to be held liable.

Texas has some of the most lax gun laws... just saying

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

They don't want to lose their medical licences more like, because then they help noone

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying all of the OB/Gyns in abortion ban states should give up their license and likely go to prison thereby leaving all pregnant patients without care?

Because that's what you're proposing here, functionally. OB/Gyns are already leaving these states in droves because of these bans and it's leaving massive maternal care deserts across the South. There are already millions of people living in areas without OB/Gyn care within 100 miles drive, and now critical access rural hospitals are closing. Also, OB/delivery services are the first thing on the chopping block for budget cuts at struggling hospitals because 41% of births in America are covered by Medicaid. This number is substantially higher in the areas that are also affected by healthcare deserts meaning that up to 90-100% of births might be covered by Medicaid in some of these rural hospitals. With the Medicaid cuts, that means that the hospital loses thousands of dollars for every baby born there when they're already deep in the red.

Your "all or nothing" approach to what physicians should be doing leaves absolutely no consideration for the secondary effects of such actions. If providing one abortion meant the complete loss of an OB/Gyn physician to a community, the tradeoff simply is not worth it. There are so many things that can go wrong with pregnancy and delivery that are not fixable with abortion (and what if it's a wanted pregnancy?). Depriving communities of qualified physicians is a death sentence for many women that will then be unable to access the prenatal care that could have saved their life.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 3 months ago

Republicans are monsters. Fucking evil pieces of shit. That's the type that has swept the party since 2015. The moderates are gone. Only the most heinous pieces of shit fill their ranks in government today.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 40 points 3 months ago (8 children)

And of course they were both POC. I fucking hate this state, and I don't even live in it.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago

I was made to either move to Texas or lose my career.

I chose to lose my career.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Porsha Ngumezi and Brenda Yolani Arzu Ramirez were their names.

They deserved to have their kids, and get a chance to live life as moms. Instead now they are gone, and now they are being used as puppets. What a horrible timeline.

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. Is there a common way to de-apple such a link or did you have to search for the original article?

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It's automatic in this case.
There are browser addons to skip redirects, but I don't know how well they work.

For sharing from Apple News, instead of using the share button (if that's what you did) I guess you could open the link in a browser first, let it redirect and then copy the original URL.

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2022/dec/us-maternal-health-divide-limited-services-worse-outcomes

The statistics show worse outcomes for black women in abortion restricted states. There are so many deaths from the hands of Republicans. It is insane that they are supported by so many people in this country.

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Just a different type of genocide.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Texas is NOT a red state. It’s gerrymandered to hell.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

Shouldn't that mean their semators would be blue?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

And about to get even worse.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (25 children)

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

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[–] npcknapsack@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is even this politicized?

It always was... this was never about children or life. It has ever and always been about control. The death of these women is, at best, incidental, and at worst, intentional.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

American conservatives are batsit insane. Even conservatives in other developed countries won't even subvert the law on allowing abortion on the grounds of health and safety of both the child and mother.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Christian values at its finest here.

[–] Penny7@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many Savita Halappanavar's (she died from complications post miscarriage in Ireland in 2012) there need to be in the world before people pull their heads out of their asses and let women have true bodily autonomy and give them the care that goes along with that?

Like, whether you take the Hippocratic Oath, the WHO's Oath, Lasagna's Oath (yes, it's a thing - one of the revisions of the Hippocratic Oath in the 20th century done by a man who's last name was Lasagna), or any of the other versions that are out there, the one unifying factor is that as a medical professional you swear to not harm your patients. This is harming patients. They are breaking their oaths and should have their licenses revoked for intentional malpractice.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 8 points 3 months ago

For physicians in these total ban states, defying the law would mean the loss of everything they have. Under your edict here, OB/Gyns would lose their license no matter what. They'd lose their license under your plan if they refused to provide abortion care and they'd lose their license and face prison time if they did provide abortion care.

Yes, it means that the women who need abortion care are going to suffer immensely, but there's already a dire shortage of OB/Gyn physicians, so losing more of them to prison is not going to help all the women that need regular obstetric or gynecologic care and the women who need abortion care.

This is the definition of "between a rock and a hard place" and there's maternal mortality on both sides because when women can't get prenatal care, it drastically increases the chances of them dying from pregnancy or delivery complications.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Texas, the bastion of democracy. Right alongside Alberta, and the rest of the South.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

2A for all... Texas loves their guns

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Well good riddance, those baby murdering criminals!

/S

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Matthew 7:7-8

7 - Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

8 - For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In other words: Fuck around and find out.

[–] JHRD1880@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Disgusting. And these scumbags are fine with it too.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The Deregulated Bible Banging Texas Oblast and their shitty healthcare system.

[–] marsza@lemmy.cafe 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Texas Living. 🤷‍♂️ oh well.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Not "Oh, well"

Which state is next? Yours?

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[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ah... No money for anything but oil subsidies. Must be nice not having any social problems in your state.

Edit: their state.

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