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Belkin is killing off parts of the Wemo Line (poptalk.scrubbles.tech)
submitted 11 months ago by scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world
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"Be Ready for Today" They're so supportive and enthusiastic, and because of this they're killing off most of (maybe all?) of their WeMo line:

But hey, at least we know that they're very appreciative of us, and that they wanted to provide us with simple to use accessories, and that they're proud. Their empty corporate words make up for the pieces of ewaste we now have.

I believe WeMo with a lot of hacking can be controlled locally via a direct IP connection if set up through Home Assistant. It's a pain, and it still requires their app, so maybe try to set it up now before they officially end support. Even without this workaround, it's pure enshittification and Belkin is back on the "Don't ever buy" list.

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[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If a device relies on any kind of external service to initially set up or function thereafter, do not buy. Regardless of brand.

Or accept that it has a finite lifespan that you cannot control. It's not a matter of if the rug will get pulled, but when.

There is a grey area for things that can be reflashed or rebrained, but I prefer to not rely on this. Local access methods like ZigBee, Z-Wave and 433Mhz are immune to this kind of enshittification by design. Even WiFi devices can fit in here, with appropriate restrictions in place.

An acceptable middle-ground would be for EOL devices to be offered (with a big disclaimer) a final update that removes the reliance on the service but retains the core function. That's a pipe dream though.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, unfortunately most people don't understand what that is, and buy devices thinking they'll be supported long term. Us here know better (I bought Wemo early on and stopped years and years ago now because I knew this was coming, but I know I'm not the majority).

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sometimes they'll even remove these kinds of feature. See: ~~Yeelink~~ Yeelight removing LAN control from their bedside lamps, as a particularly egregious example.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If a device relies on any kind of external service to initially set up or function thereafter, do not buy. Regardless of brand.

This is what I strive for. When I was looking for a wall charger for my EV I was shocked at how there was only one option that wasn't "cloud" based. And those aren't cheap.

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Insane. At the core it's no more than an extension lead with a shaped plug. Some basic brains for safety.

If I had to go that route, I'd wall it off from the main network/internet at large.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I went with the open source one. Slightly more expensive, but had I wanted to I could have bought all the parts and assembled it myself, compiled the firmware, etc.

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

Hardcore, I love it.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is a grey area for things that can be reflashed or rebrained

No, this should be the goal!

[–] swizzlestick@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago

The goal for me would be to not have to break out the programmer in the first place. The same way I have never felt the need to operate on my toaster, fridge, TV etc.

On a 'good' device, having that relatively easy to access is still a bonus though :)

[–] markz@suppo.fi 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

aFtEr CaReFuL cOnSiDeRaTiOn, We hAvE MaDe tHe DiFfIcUlT dEcIsIoN

Difficult decision my ass

[–] prex@aussie.zone 14 points 11 months ago

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago

"careful decision":

executive 1: can we make money off it?

executive 2: i don't think so

executive 1: it's gone

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

HomeAssistant to the rescue?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It really should be a law that if a company does this, they should open source the code for both devices and servers and provide a way for people to reflash their devices.

Like, they're retiring a light switch that's 3 years old, I don't think anyone buys a light switch thinking they'll get a new one just 3 years later.

[–] vladmech@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of our light switches and smart plugs are pre HomeKit WeMos and this is super frustrating. They weren’t a great product but we had them and they worked well enough, but Belkin’s on my fuck off list now.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Please post your fuck off list

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Broadcom, Target, Amazon, Walmart, Tesla, Subnaughtica 2, Gearbox, Microsoft, T Mobile, McDonald's, Pepsi Co, Coke, Disturbed, Falling in Reverse, 3 doors down, Trapt, PirateSoftware, Salvation Army, chick fil a, hobby lobby, and more. Those were some off the cuff for me. Google is there, but I can't get out of everything there, and the Pixel is the best phone option. There are more but we could be here all night.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why 3 Doors Down?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They're conservative nut bags

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

Are they? Damn.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nestle? Real Time with Bill Maher? Fox News? HP?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Nestle is tough having their grubby fingers in about everything. I do avoid if I know. Bill and Fox to me are just givens, so not worth mentioning. And yes, fuck HP.

[–] nightrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would almost say that Broadcom is probably worse off than most of the rest in your list combined. 😠

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They bought VMWare, which sucks.

[–] nightrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

^ This

[–] nightrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have Wemo light switches, outdoor plugs, mini plugs, and the original plug. Since they are HomeKit enabled you don’t have to set them up with the Wemo app. You can set them up directly from HomeKit. I’ve never downloaded a Wemo iOS app.

Sucks that they aren’t supported anymore but my warranty ran out a while ago. I may lose firmware updates with patching for security vulnerabilities but I have these running on an IOT VLAN that is very restricted and only has the access that my firewall lets it access.

[–] zerosignal@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have a wemo plug and with how flaky the thing has been the last few months, I assumed it was deprecated a long time ago.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I have two in my house and, if I was honest, they were always a bit jankie, but definitely worse over the past year or so.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who buys a WiFi enabled crock pot deserves what’s coming to them

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dinner?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Not anymore, it’s been deprecated