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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That data is independently researched or Samsung gave that to the EU and it's published as-is?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 7 points 2 hours ago

The new law does not mandate third-party review. It's the innkeeper claiming that the wine is good.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Sorry, no way I am going back to Samsung. I had the A71 and it was a TERRIBLE smart phone. I switched to the Pixel 6 and it was night and day.

I just need to get off my ass and install Graphene.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 14 points 5 hours ago

The Pixel line is comparable to the Samsung S line, you got a budget phone before

[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Funny enough, I had the complete opposite experience. I didn’t necessarily use Samsung then either, but I would get the phone that was normally rated the best or highly reviewed. I think i came from an LG to the first pixel phone. Pixel was the first phone to ever give me issues. Felt it vibrate one day in my pocket and I looked at it a few min later and it was in permanent boot loop. Tried a lot of things, but my one regret was forgetting to turn on developer options with the usb so essentially the phone was bricked. I couldn't access it or do anything, everytbing was lost and support was no help and told me they couldn't replace it. Last time I used them. I also wasn't a fan of how hard they tried copying an iPhone at the time. Since them I've mostly used a Samsung either the Note and now the higher end galaxies and love them. Only thing I dislike is their own line of apps for everything that I disable immediately.

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

it's well worth it and quite easy with the WebUSB installer

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I just upgraded to the 9 and assume it's scraping every bit of data it can from me. I will do it this weekend.

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Can confirm my pixel 6a battery went to dogshit this week. Almost feels like it's more the update than anything with the battery.... but I guess I'll be learning to switch battery and finally going back to lineageos

[–] TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah they sent a communication to pixel 6a owners saying that they will force an update that will reduce battery usage. In case you did not know, Google is providing a 100$ check, or 150$ discount on their store for 6a owners.

[–] onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Whoa that happened to the 6a as well? That whole thing with the 4a was a disaster.

[–] TheWonderfool@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Experiencing it right now... Still no battery update for my phone, but I am currently away on vacation and am dreading the moment it will become a fancy brick

[–] Cassa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Yup, got my 100$ yesterday -it is anti-lawsuit stuff but will cover the cost of fixing a new battery

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

My 6a is over 3 years old and still strong. I had no Samsung battery that lasted under a year and a half.

GrapheneOS though.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I've had my Pixel 5 since around the time the 6 came out. The battery life isn't great, but I can get by just fine. Maybe Samsung phone batteries are better, but before this I had a Samsung Galaxy. The battery on that was no better. I know this is anecdotal, but I don't plan to switch when my 5 croaks.

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 2 hours ago

I wonder why people downvote this... some kind of brand loyalty/emnity, or buyer's remorse?

[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I find that I wear out the charging port before the battery. I don't even plug it in that much either.

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

try a magnetic charger. it may look a bit off leaving the usb-c part plugged into the phone, but there's way less wear or lint

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

Magnetic USB cables are usually dogshit though. They are not defined in the USB spec, so it's the wild west out there.

[–] Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Or wireless, I've used both for years

[–] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 12 points 9 hours ago

But they don't have GrapheneOS 😟

[–] rimu@piefed.social 22 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

Although, replacing the battery on the Fairphone is so much easier that 1000 cycles is acceptable.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 24 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Before anyone rushes to replace their phones my Pixel 5 is nearly 5 years old, still on original battery (would be on at least 1200 cycles) and is presently sitting at 92% and claiming 1 day 11hrs remaining. Off the charger since 9:45 this morning and used for streaming music to my car while I was driving earlier. It still easily holds over 24 hours charge in my usage, so if I forget to charge it at night it's usually around 40% in the morning and I can plug it in sometime in the morning to top up. Perfectly useable after almost 5 years, and this is pretty normal for Pixels in my experience.

Love the new EU measurement standards but per other people's comments above they do not seem to mandate strict third-party testing, but rather rely on manufacturers submitting their results and adhering to the set test standards. This has not worked out well in the past, it should be mandatory third-party.

Cannot wait to see the return of user-replaceable batteries (thank you again, EU).

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 1 points 5 hours ago

Your pixel 5 didn't just mysteriously die? There was a wave of them dying. Mine was part of the crossfire.

I loved the pixel 5 too, for like 3 years then mysteriously croaked.

Currently on the pixel 6 which is pretty good.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 117 points 1 day ago (3 children)

From @fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com on a post over at !android@lemdro.id

Yeah this is just manufacturers self rating themselves. This is just like VW cars rating themselves as getting 5-10mpg better than their competitors, when really they were just measuring from the balls.

The up side is if they fail to meet those ratings then are the consumers entitled to some sort of compensation?

Btw, I love how Piefed shows comments from cross-posts. Every client should do it, helps make the fediverse feel bigger and more diverse.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This comment says otherwise:

https://lemmy.world/comment/18057099

How is battery life measured under this new EU regulation?

One interesting detail is that the battery endurance rating in the new labels is tested using the same software used by many tech reviewers: SmartViser. This French automation company works with labs and manufacturers to simulate real-world usage. So now, the battery performance you see on the label is based on consistent, lab-tested data, not just marketing claims.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

the actual legislation is not that specific as far as i can tell:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R1669#anx_I

Article 5

Measurement methods

The information to be provided pursuant to Articles 3 and 4 shall be obtained by reliable, accurate and reproducible measurement and calculation methods, which take into account the recognised state-of-the-art measurement and calculation methods, as set out in Annex IV.

Article 6

Verification procedure for market surveillance purposes

Member States shall apply the verification procedure laid down in Annex IX when performing the market surveillance checks referred to in Article 8(3) of Regulation (EU) 2017/1369.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

pixel also has the bad exonys chip that drains thier battery pretty fast. im using a oneplus12r right now, and it has 2 days of batteries if intensive usage(no gaming).

[–] onlyhalfminotaur@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They largely fixed battery drain in the 9 series. It's now in the same league as Samsung and Apple.

[–] Peter1986C@lemmings.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Pixel models <=5 have Qualcomm SoCs in them, while model >=6 has Tensor SoCs developed by Google (but fabricated by Samsung IIRC). No Samsung Exynos SoCs in them.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Damn, yeah. My pixel will drain 50% or more in a day, in my pocket. Brutal

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 16 points 22 hours ago (10 children)

I'm at 943 cycles on my Pixel 6 Pro and it's still going strong. I slow charge it every night and try to avoid fully draining the battery to slow down the deterioration, which seems to have worked pretty well. Thankfully a battery replacement is only $50 so it won't cost much when I do have to replace it.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

Yeah I've got a P7 Pro and the battery is still fine. Adaptive charging enabled to help batter life.

Handed my P6 down to my daughter and it's still fine for her too

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (6 children)

That’s strange, considering they all use the same battery suppliers.

[–] jalkasieni@sopuli.xyz 8 points 16 hours ago

It makes sense once you consider that these numbers are the manufacturers self reporting. That means they aren’t comparable, so drawing conclusions like ”manufacturer X has better batteries than manufacturer Y” from these numbers is silly.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 day ago (7 children)

1,000 charge cycles: OnePlus 13

Hmm. This one has newer silicone-carbon lithium-ion batteries, which should actually increase charge cycles, so what's happening here?

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