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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 199 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, you can heat any old rock & make it look like that ... what I'm saying is that every rock, when heated to 500+°C, will gain delicious orange flavour, but scientists don't want you to know that!!

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 147 points 5 days ago (4 children)
[–] uservoid1@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago

I was about to say that in the 40s and 50s someone ~~probably~~ taste it.

[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

The best way to tell precisely how spicy your rock is, is to taste it. That's just basic science, if you ask me.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

Given that lead acetate is sweet, would plutonium acetate do the same?

anyone wants to help me set up a charity where we give "last meals" to terminal patients using toxic ingredients just for them to describe how they taste?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 16 points 5 days ago

Zomg, where are all the warning labels???

[–] razorcandy@discuss.tchncs.de 103 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Fun fact: a gram of plutonium contains about 20 billion calories. Yum.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 104 points 5 days ago (3 children)

And it goes straight to my hips. By which I mean the bone marrow in my pelvis.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago

These hips don't lie : you got cancer

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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 58 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This is a commonly quoted fun fact that is not really true. There are 2 different definitions of calorie. One means the absolute amount of energy in an object, the other means the bioavailable amount of energy that a human can extract from it using their digestive system.

So every physical object that exists has some amount of potential energy contained within it which we can express in calories, but that doesn't mean it has any bioavailable calories. For example glass has some significant amount of energy contained within it, but it has 0 bioavailable calories.

This "fun fact" mixes up the two definitions, making the statement meaningless.

(Nothing against you OP, this is a commonly repeated falsehood)

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

this is a commonly repeated ~~falsehood~~ obvious joke

And, if I have to explain the joke: it's just E=mc² (the Einstein thing ... well, the Einstein's thing's approximation), the energy (E) is the same for all mass (m) since the c is a constant.
You get the same 21 billon kcal from 1g of apples as from 1g of plutonium.
And since it's usually well known humans do not devour mass into pure energy that might trigger ppls sense of humour.
(Additionally the idea of eating metal to seek nutrition might be funny, but we do need some metals \m/.)

Also "potential energy" phrasing is weird in that context.

There are 2 different definitions of calorie.
This "fun fact" mixes up the two definitions

It's not even two definitions, the kcal is absolutely the same, it's just used to measure two different things (mass energy vs the sum of what an average human can extract via chemical processes). I see you def understand that, but it's not a different definition of a calorie (in the same way as length vs width of an object isn't a different definition of a metre).

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Not dietal calories.

The calorie numbers we assign to food, measure how much energy our body extracts from them when eaten.

In this context, plutonium is closer to 0

If we instead want to measure the actual total physical energy content of materia, we would turn to E=mc^2, telling us that a gram of anything has about 20 million kcal, no matter if its plutonium or diet coke. which is a slightly less useful value on food labels :D

[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

This is actually an issue with food calories as well. Wood shavings give a high reading in a bomb calorimeter but you can't process them into energy. Same with lots of fiber. And ethanol, in some cases.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Technically it measures how much you can heat up a known volume of water if you burn the food. We have no way of measuring how much of that energy released by combustion actually gets absorbed and translated to ATP in the body, but it’s the best estimation we have of the relative energy content of foods.

There’s some carbohydrates, proteins, and fats that our bodies don’t seem to convert to energy (or only partially convert) but still technically contain “calories” because they’re combustible. Sugar alcohols, fiber, etc.

Plutonium doesn’t combust, but it would heat up water in a calorimeter. Really the test method’s applicability kind of falls apart when you start testing undigestible materials.

[–] SapientLasagna@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Plutonium actually does combust^1^. Even worse, it's pyrophoric^2^. I couldn't easily find kcal/g though.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I did a little digging. The heat of decay (so plutonium 238 just sitting around, not burning) is about .48 kcal/hr per gram. So if we were able to convert that energy to ATP like we do carbohydrates, eating about 300g of plutonium would be like eating a twinkie (150kcal) every hour. In about 88 years the energy output of that plutonium would have reduced to about a half-twinkie per hour.

Assuming you need 2000 kcal per day to maintain weight, that’s only 83 kcal per hour needed. So, if you could survive eating it and actually utilize the energy generated, you’d be set for life on food after eating less than 300g. We’d have to come up with a dosing schedule or you’d have to work out pretty hard as a young person to keep from getting fat.

The heat of combustion for plutonium based on a very cursory search (take it with a grain of salt) is about 1 kcal/g. So assuming your body could oxidize it, you’d get a one-time burst of about 2 twinkies worth of energy immediately upon eating that 300g.

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[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 38 points 5 days ago

If you eat just one bite you'll never have to eat again for the rest of your life!

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Equivalent-level of fun fact: 1 gram of hay contains that much calories too!

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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 60 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The highest calorie last meal

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (7 children)
[–] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

please reconsider again, some of them are tasty

from cody's lab

[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah. That looks like something Codyslab will do...

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 4 days ago

Wtf, no, you should not lick boron, fucking ever. Go lick a piece of lead, it's better for your health

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

Wish we had this in chemistry

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 38 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

We need a cosmological law dictating harmful to humans = boring-looking. I mean, it isn't just plutonium, look at uranium yellowcake! It's lemon flavouring!

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

that looks like a sponge x3

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

It looks like the underside of a microfiber towel

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[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 5 days ago

I like how all these pictures include the radiation fucking up the photo.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Some Pu solutions for your viewing pleasure:

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Isn't it just that color because it's hot? Like, if you cooled those off to room temperature, wouldn't they be metallic gray?

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Cooling down means it's breaking down and no longer plutonium.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm talking about thermally cooling it down. If you put it in a freezer it will cool down, but the nuclear process will not change speed.

[–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Good luck with cooling down unmoderated plutonium.

[–] j5906@feddit.org 10 points 5 days ago

liquid nitrogen will do

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

That’s why they have it in a frying pan

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

Forbidden gum drop

[–] houndeyes@toast.ooo 21 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

And here I thought plutonium looked like this:

[–] rockyTron@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Kinda, in solution different oxidation states make pretty colors... 1000078594

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago

This whole image is metal as fuck \m/

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

if you can wait a few million years, after few decay steps it turns into lead, which is known to be sweet

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yes, it does look delicious.

But I can't help but think about this being the consequences of dying everything we eat unholy colors. Maybe radioactive material wouldn't be so tasty looking if we didn't give kids candy that looks like radioactive material.

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[–] Crispycrebs@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What would happen if you played hockey with that?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 days ago

A lot of people get cancer already and ice also already melts all the time so I don't see why this is so special

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

That's plutonium. You would die of radiation poisoning long before you could ever even come close to developing cancer.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 5 days ago

Deliciously ever-hot orange pie

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