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128 Democrats join House Republicans to block AOC, Al Green bid to impeach Trump
(www.independent.co.uk)
God your country is fucked.
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I don't think God wants anything to do with them tbh
"Because god" is one of the excuses these bastards use to try and excuse their shitty behavior .
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128 senators show their true republican colours…
House reps. There are only 100 senators total
There's a reason I call them Republicrats. Although I suspect this specifically is because they want future Democrat presidents to be able to blow shit up in the Middle East at will too.
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AOC might be testing the party. She should know who is going to vote for impeachment before the vote.
Apparently there are still majority of congress critters who will ride the horse of greed right into the ground then think they can call a cab.
She's certainly testing them and shining the light on them for who they are - rotten to the core.
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Unpopular opinion here; but there's no way an impeachment would succeed and a failed impeachment strengthens Trump's position with his base.
Everything Trump does strengthen his position with his base.
He could probably eat dog poo on live television and his base would cheer him for a dumb reason.
"The liberals forced him into a choice to eat dog poo. Their fault. " -all maga logic at this point as they also start to eat dog poo.
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It's an extreme version of the sunk cost fallacy. His believers are the type of people who think that changing your mind is a sign of weakness. For America to pass this period, a lot of these people will expect a Pact of Forgetting type situation so they don't have to answer for what they were encouraging.
that is exactly why the Dems had nothing to lose. you are not winning over MAGA folks. who cares? they are not the group a symbolic appeal of impeachment would work for. the Dems should've taken the risk to demonstrate solidarity but they can't be fucked to do anything even remotely suggestive they are working for their constituents.
I'll go a bit further and say this particular hill is not the best one to choose, as presidents have long unilaterally launched military operations and it's been broadly declared legal, even if it makes no sense. Changing the law would be good, but as the law stands, it's a hard argument to make that Trump should be impeached because of his unilateral decision to strike Iran but every other president in recent history shouldn't have been impeached over their unilateral strikes.
Need to select some way in which he has behaved illegally, in a way that looks corrupt, and in a way that is different than other presidents that have been given free passes. He seems to give such circumstances pretty routinely, so I don't know why you'd go for this one.
It seems really unlikely that any of them seriously believed impeachment proceedings could happen from this, even if every Democrat in the House voted yes. They knew it was going to fail from the start so it seems like the intent of it was to make a statement.
Despicable. The Democrats are a shell of what they used to be. How fucking pathetic, but also expected.
Time to vote 'em out, folks! Eyes on 2026 & 2028, if we make it that far!
Curious about what time you were referring to when Democrats were better. I suppose they were OK during Obama (ACA was a corporate-friendly solution, there was a huge wealth transfer from the government to financial institutions and corporations, there were tons of drone strikes, and anti-immigration ramped up though). During Clinton they cut social programs significantly, and implemented the draconian three-strikes law.
Oh I'm talking about Democrats like FDR
I hope you mean primaries, because voting them out at the general election doesn't exactly get you better results.
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Make no mistake. This is a game of politics. Nothing more. They're not doing anything other than playing a wicked and degenerate game of human chess. They don't care about anything other than their bottom line. They're basically saying fuck the American people how can I personally benefit from this!
Primary them all.
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Just remember many liberals try to tell the democratic party is different than the republican party. Just remember both are bought by PACS and oligarchs
But still, even when you go to more politically aware places (like lemmy), you'll get mocked for suggesting America is rules by a uniparty when it comes to American inperialism. It's unbelievably fucking stupid.
This is what you get when you vOtE bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo
There are probably a dozen things they could (and should) impeach Trump for. This isn't actually one of them. Presidents are authorized to do air strikes.
The left is usually not as ignorant of the facts as the right, but this is one of those cases where the left is ignoring the facts. The President has authorization from Congress to do limited military action. Should all of the Presidents before been impeached for doing similar one-off air strikes? Seems you want to impeach Trump based on dumb memes about this being the start of WWIII rather it being an air strike.
Did Obama get impeached for sending a SEAL Team into Pakistan without getting authorization from congress?
Also Iran does in fact have a nuclear weapons program. The civilian reactor is supplied Uranium from Russia that's already enriched to around 5% which is what you use for civilian energy generation. Iran had Uranium enriched to 60% which isn't useful for civilian reactors and none of the Uranium enriched in Iran is used in their one civilian nuclear reactor. The UN has reported that Iran is keeping secrets from them and there's been an increase in their Uranium enrichment, which again is entirely a weapons program, the uranium for civilian use comes from Russia.
So congratulations, instead of impeaching Trump for doing all of the corruption, or for deploying Marines on US soil without authorization, or for falsely declaring everything an emergency so he can do stupid tariff stuff, you've created a narrative that the left tried to impeach him for protecting Americans from the "Death to America" country's nuclear weapons. I guess the left is fine with the corruption and deploying the military within the US, but only take action to come to the defense of the Ayatollah's nuclear weapons program.
The left only seems to want to attack Trump when they have non-existent chance of winning or even convincing anyone of their position. On issues where the left has a strong case, they do nothing.
If your claim is that the strike is justified because you believe that Iran has an illegal nuke program, then do you also agree that Israel should be bombed to oblivion because we know that they have an illegal nuke program?
Does the fact that the strike was made when all intel insisted that there was no justification for it matter at all in this, or does past evils justify all future evils?
In the past we very publicly killed Nazis. By your logic can we do the same today?
Also, btw, Obama was in power during a time of declared war.
If your claim is that the strike is justified because you believe that Iran has an illegal nuke program, then do you also agree that Israel should be bombed to oblivion because we know that they have an illegal nuke program?
Are you saying the world is supposed to be fair? If Iran launches a nuke at Tel Aviv and 2 million people die and Israel retaliates and nukes Tehran and 2 million people die, that would be fair. Even Stevens!
I'd rather live in an unfair world than live in your fair world because I'm not a psychopath that thinks 4 million people is a good outcome.
Does the fact that the strike was made when all intel insisted that there was no justification for it matter at all in this, or does past evils justify all future evils?
Read the IAEA report: https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-9-june-2025
I don't have the security clearances needed to see the intel and I strongly doubt you do (if you did you wouldn't be blabbing about it a web forum). But we do have publicly available information from the subject experts at the IAEA that Iran was enriching more Uranium and was hiding things from the UN.
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