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„Äußerst beunruhigend und unethisch“: Neue Vorschriften erlauben es Ärzten der Veteranenbehörde, Demokraten und unverheiratete Veteranen die Behandlung zu verweigern.

Das Ministerium für Veteranenangelegenheiten erklärt, die Änderungen seien eine Reaktion auf eine Verordnung von Trump zum „Schutz von Frauen“.

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[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 58 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

While I'm very against the executive order they describe, the headline is misleading:

Language requiring healthcare professionals to care for veterans regardless of their politics and marital status has been explicitly eliminated.

So they can also refuse to treat e.g. republicans and married veterans.

[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

lol I wouldn’t be surprised if the republicunts thought this was the ultimate checkmate

[–] cubism_pitta@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

No VA doctor should be refusing to treat any patient for those reasons. It's absurd and unethical.

[–] Goretantath@lemmy.world 71 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is that good people wont do that, and bad people side with republicans so the only side thatl get hurt is as the headline describes.

[–] assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

I emotionally agree with you, but really the problem is that... anyone could do that in the future. Denying someone owed care because of political belief is a horrendous situation to explicitly allow, regardless of political affiliation.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago

Just like how the law equally prevents the rich and the poor from sleeping under bridges.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 36 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's how it is in "both-sides" lala land but it's always going to be the pro-fascist side that abuses it the most

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Sure, it's just important to recognize when abuse happens in the absence of law, and when abuse is law, as it would be for a law targeting Democrats and unmarried explicitly.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago

Everything's politics mfs when I refuse to treat them bcs they don't like garlic

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 2 points 20 hours ago

In theory you are correct, but you are dangerously wrong in practice.

[–] Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

But individual workers are now free to decline to care for patients based on personal characteristics not explicitly prohibited by federal law.

An individual worker that denies treatment based on politics or marital status will become a target. Some of these veterans have very serious mental illness and will do violent things when they go off their meds.

There are already examples of veterans committing suicide in the parking lot of VA hospitals because they are denied proper care. In those examples there is no individual to blame so they feel lost and take their own life. If this is ever exercised and a veteran is denied care by an individual, that individual will be a ~~victim~~ valid target of a murder suicide. I guarantee it.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 22 hours ago

I think this is the point - headline will be

attacks and kills VA nurse/doctor/etc. Government to investigate risks from

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Why on earth is there not a short list of criteria which allow you to deny care? I can only really imagine things like certain types of abusive behavior towards you/your staff and a personal connection to the patient as actual valid grounds for denial of medical treatment.

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Because OFC, lets just add more harm

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

The fascist Hippocratic oath: "First do LOTS of harm"

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

wtf is the problem with unmarried veterans? this country redefines dumb every day

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 12 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My now wife and I lived together for 10 years before we got married. A lot of pearl clutchers had a problem with that. I am guessing that is what they are referring to. Not single people, but unmarried cohabitants.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago

i just can't imagine living life being that obsessed with other people's relationships/orientations that have absolutely no impact on my life

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

I interpret it not as married or unmarried, but the gender they're married to, though maybe that wouldn't stand in court due to roundabout discrimination, I dunno.