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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago

What I’m getting from this exchange is that people on the left have ethical concerns about plagiarism, and don’t trust half-baked technology. They also value quality over quantity.

I’m okay with being pigeonholed in this way. Drink all the coffee you want, dude.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

IMO it’s going to make a bunch of mushmind people if not used correctly(when are things used correctly these days) and I also think AI needs to go back in the box until it actually works properly.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

58 minutes of drinking coffee.

That's somewhere around 100 to 400 miligrams of caffeine, depending on your brew and how fast you drink coffee.

Thats about 35 mg to 145ish mg of caffeine still in your system after 6 hours.

400 mg of caffeine in a day is the generally agreed upon dangerous limit of coffee.

So yeah, this dude is trading having a functioning brain and useful skills for... potentially OD'ing on caffeine, hypertension, diarrhea, addiction, etc.

Brilliant.

[–] ProfessorProteus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

It's okay, his "agent AI" told him it was good for him and that he was brilliant for maximizing his body's fuel intake, or some shit.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

... does anyone have a meme for:

'my body is a machine that turns coffee into projectile diarrhea and heart arrhythmia'

?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 2 points 3 hours ago

Marxism-Butlerianism

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Please I beg people: think for yourselves.

I genuinely don't know how to help people who don't want to think for themselves 😖

[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago

"I thought when I told the AI what to think but smarter, I did myandatory thinking now its up to the robot!"

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 42 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

The use of LLM had a measurable impact on participants, and while the benefits were initially apparent, as we demonstrated over the course of 4 months, the LLM group's participants performed worse than their counterparts in the Brain-only group at all levels: neural, linguistic, scoring.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.08872

[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

science

Get out. /s

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I equate it with doing those old formulas by hand in math class. If you don’t know what the formula does or how to use it, how do you expect to recall the right tool for the job?

Or in DND speak, it’s like trying to shoehorn intelligence into a wisdom roll.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 18 points 6 hours ago

That would be fine if LLM was a precise tool like a calculator. My calculator doesn’t pretend to know answers to questions it doesn’t understand.

[–] blicky_blank@lemmy.today 10 points 6 hours ago

So this guy thinks books are typically ready in 2 hours...

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 7 hours ago

I can drink coffee while reading.

Who tf takes 58 minutes to drink that anyway? Would it not be cold?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"IQ benefits"? Lmao what fuckin nonsense. This shit aint making anyone smarter, if anything its robbing you of your ability to think critically.

It's garbage software with zero practical use. Whatever you're using AI for, just learn it yourself. You'll be better off.

"And then I drink coffee for 58 minutes" instead of reading a book, like that's a brag - just read a fuckin book, goddamn.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's garbage software with zero practical use.

AI is responsible for a lot of slop but it is wrong to say it has no use. I helped my wife with a VBScript macro for Excel. There was no way I was going to learn VBScript. Chatgpt spit out a somewhat working script in minutes that needed 15 minutes of tweaking. The alternative would have been weeks of work learning a proprietary Microsoft language. That's a waste of time.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Okay fine. You can vibe code. Got anything else?

I stand by my statement.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wife uses it all the time as a grammar checker on steroids. It tweaks her emails to be more "management speak" that makes the corporate executives very happy. It gives her more time to spend on equations instead of explaining things to upper management.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So the management is the problem, then

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

And using llms on them instead of wasting my time is a solution. One solution of many.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If they were replaced by chatgpt, things would be better for people doing the real work.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I never use these LLMs cause I have a brain and I'm not artistically inclined to use it for audiovisual creation, but today I thought 'why not?' and gave it a try. So I asked ChatGPT to provide me with 80 word biographies of the main characters of LOGH and, besides being vague, it made pretty big mistakes on pretty much every summary and went fully off the rails after the 4th character... It's not even debatable information (fiction books plus anime, no conflicting narratives here) and it's all easily available online. I can't even imagine relying on it for anything more serious than summing up biographies for anime characters, lol, cause even that it couldn't do right!

[–] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Asking a LLM something is the equivalent of asking strangers on the internet and allowing non-serious answers too

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

That's because that's what LLMs are trained on. Random comments from people on the internet, including troll posts and jokes which the LLM takes as factual most of the times.

Remember when Google trained their AI on reddit comments and it put out incredibly stupid answers like mixing glue in your cheese sauce to make it thicker?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/1czj9rx/google_ai_gives_answers_they_find_on_reddit_with/

Or that one time it suggested that people should eat a small rock every day because it was fed an Onion article?

https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/1d2z04c/this_is_what_happens_when_reddit_is_used_to_train/

The old saying: "Garbage in, garbage out." fits extremely well for LLMs. Considering the amount of data being fed to these LLMs it's almost impossible to sanitize them and the LLMs are nowhere close to being able to discern jokes, trolls or sarcasm.

Oh yea also it came out some researchers used LLMs to post reddit comments for an experiment. So yea, the LLMs are being fed with other LLM content too. It's pretty much a human-centipede situation.

https://www.engadget.com/ai/researchers-secretly-experimented-on-reddit-users-with-ai-generated-comments-194328026.html

But yea, I wouldn't trust these models for anything but the most simplest of tasks and even there I would be pretty circumspect of what they give me.

[–] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do you subscribe to the idea that LLMs will degrade overtime after recycling their own shit for several years like a gif/jpeg rencoded for the umpteenth time

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Honestly? Yea. The training data matters, that's why all these AI companies are looking for data generated by humans. Feeding them with LLM data would most likely end up in nonsensical stuff pretty fast.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 4 hours ago

I find it's decent for low stakes programming questions, and that's mostly because I can easily validate correctness just by running the code (because often it'll get it wrong initially and you need to go back to the conversation to fix the issue or just fix it yourself).

How people use it to deal with mental health or relationship issues boggles my mind tho.

All the information required is on Gineipedia! I would've done it myself as I was doing it previously but I thought I'd expedite it. It really fails at the most basic of tasks...

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 hours ago

The last time I used a commercial LLM as a "consumer" was to write a response to a rejection letter I got from a company that made me drive an hour and a half one way so they could tell me in person that I lived too far away from them. If I wrote it myself I would have screamed into the email.

Last time I used an LLM at all was when I tried to set up a local version of Llama for VS Code. But then I got busy with schoolwork.

[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

They both make stupid arguments. Who would replace reading a book with an AI? If I want information in a shorter format, I would not be looking for books in the first place (unless I need to reference pages/chapters, but then I won't be reading the whole thing anyway).

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

Banger post tbh.

[–] psychadlligoat@piefed.social -5 points 6 hours ago

It is pretty funny how often the most vocally against (and wrong about) AI are openly self-admitted lefties though. probably because the chiefs are 1000% used to falling for scams and thus jumped all-in early on the tech, but it seems many a lefty saw that and decided to be against it forever without any further thought

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world -3 points 8 hours ago

Ah, "the left"

I'm so tired of this stupid USA polarisation, leftist hash smoker or conservative boot licker and nothing in between.