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I noticed this for a longer time but I just thought MSN flooded the web with its shit. It didn't came to my mind it is actually duckduckgo trying to shove these msn links into my face...

I guess this is similar to google amp links, just stealing the content of other websites.

It annoys me big time, -msn doesn't seem to help

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 23 points 4 days ago

Aren't they sourcing the search results from Bing?

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

Seconded! And unlike DDG (based in the US), Qwant is in the EU

[–] Trihilis@ani.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What about searxng?

I've been hearing more about it and you can apparently even self host it.

Searxng is nice, but every now and again, it won't load results until I refresh the page. I need to mess with it again, but haven't considered needing it.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Would be nice if it had a built in calculator and unit converter, that's a ddg feature I use a lot

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 183 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Duck Duck Go uses Bing so that tracks.

[–] InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This is the answer. Might be a (new?) part of their agreement

I still like DDG and recommend it. But I also recently switched to Kagi, a paid search engine, and have been quite happy.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Kagi seems kind of expensive. $5 a month is pretty high compared to the costs of other subscriptions and that doesn't even get you unlimited searches. I am definitely interested in this idea but I can't see the value being there at the prices offered.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

If it was $1 I'd probably subscribe in a heartbeat because it'd be affordable in my country. $5 is not bad but it adds up quickly.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Search something on duckduckgo and then refresh, it will list a different order of results. Very annoying if you check multiple links to not know which ones were in what order.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I'm fairly sure So you can't just game the SEO to always be on top. This way you get more varied spurces for your search. Since people will almost always click the top or second top link.

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago

i've been using Qwant when i search news

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[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 37 points 5 days ago

DDG uses Bing. What did you expect?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok what the fuck is happening with DuckDuckGo?

I've been using it since the beginning of last year, because fuck google, and it's been steadily degrading in usefulness.

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago
[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 5 points 4 days ago

Duck Duck Go was never really good at showing results in my experience. Currently using Ecosia and switching between the Googl and Bing index. I hope they get their own index soon

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

In eastern US, first time using DDG on this device, it shows normal links (searched "Ukraine drone attack")

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

DDG is going to shit anyway. Feels like bing 2.0 at this point. The results aren’t what they used to be. I’ve been getting better results from my searxng instance or using like startpage.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is weird. The links all show other news agencies, and you see the same at the top of the page when you follow the links. Is MSN re-hosting the stories from all these agencies or are the agencies opting in for this?

Nothing like seeing an Associated Press link and having it open on msn.com!! 🤡

[–] qisope@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago

It's a syndication partnership with MSN. Publishers provide their articles to MSN via RSS. It's increasingly difficult to draw traffic to independent sites, so publishers are all seeking to diversify their traffic sources.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I remember when they switched map links to (ew) Apple Maps. That was a huge downer.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Absolutely! Especially because the map is always broken on my phone, I want to move the area and end up somewhere hundreds of kilometers away. I guess it's time for a new search engine...

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It is probably the most polished map. I would rather use something open source, but it makes sense why they switched.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Duckduckgo is absolute shit. I'm tired of seeing blogspam AI shit. I'm tired of searching for things like "Trump tariffs 2017" and seeing 50,000 articles about what Trump said yesterday. Search engines are shit. It hurts I had to use Google AI for info on "articulation in architecture" because everything else was useless.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

Unless we figure out how to open source, distribute and maintain an indexer, we're going to suck on the AI tit for the foreseeable future.

All these meta search engines are eventually doomed to be shut down is the tech companies that maintain the handful of actual indexers that exist slowly shut down streams that don't provide them revenue.

[–] icegladiator@lemy.lol 3 points 4 days ago (5 children)

DDG has been shit since 2022

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[–] user_name@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Not saying this doesn’t suck, but it is also a soft paywall dodge for sites like WaPo.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Carrier pigeons.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I tried, but he kept saying things like, "my name is not Jeeves" and "I rented this suit for a wedding who are you".

Things were just simpler in the past :'(

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I searched "Trump" and switched to the news tab on DDG and get a variety of sources.

MSN isn't even in the top 20 for me.

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[–] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Switch to Kagi. It's worth the money.

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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How are you guys getting all the hits from MSN exclusively? I've tried insistently and I get an assortment of El Confidencial, CNN, Sky News and then maybe some MSN. Heck, I'm getting Yahoo before MSN.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

It seems to depend on the country, if I set US or Germany I get the MSN results, if I set Spain I set none...

[–] the_abecedarian@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago

Try searxng

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

so I get results from all the major news outlets but many have bing icons on them lolwtf

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