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Kirk fought literal Nazis. Sheridan fought future Nazis. Why did you get downvoted for this comment?
Obviously for bringing politics into a discussion about my beloved politics show
Probably Dukat's account downvoted.
He's probably still salty he didn't get his statue on Bajor.
Don’t forget Archer fighting literal Nazis
I think Archer and his crew were the only ones who fought literal Nazis. Everyone else was fighting some other organization that had just adopted some of their philosophies.
Well, I guess the Nazis Kirk fought weren't humans from Earth from the 20th century, but I recall they wore exactly the same uniforms and had the same symbology.
G'Kar was the wrong character to show for the prosthetics poke. The Narn prosthetics are actually shockingly good with a surprisingly high degree of articulation allowing for lots of emoting and facial expressions. Some of Delenn's head bone prosthetics, on the other hand, are just terrible.
Optic Nerve won a damn Emmy for their prosthetic work on B5, not sure what op's on about with that one...
Pretty much every scene involving Londo and G'Kar is solid gold. Although every time Peter Jurasik appears on screen with his very odd accent for Londo, my mind goes like: "Oh, here's The (space) Count from Sesame Street again!"
When I think of Walter Koenig, I think of Bester, not Chekov.
To be blunt, whenever I watched Trek I never got the impression he was particularly good. But then when I saw him in B5, I thought "Damn he can act. Why didn't the Trek show runners take advantage of this?!"
Bester is also still a unique character, and Koenigs delivery is unique.
It has been a while since my last rewatch.
It was the dawn of the third age of mankind – ten years after my last rewatch.
Came for the interspecies sex, stayed for the drug addicts.
I don't have a stim problem. They're legal. I have it under control.
RIP Garibaldi
See, that was their problem. Their last best hope for peace was a truck stop? That is not where you get peace. That is where you get the opposite of peace. They could have only done worse if it were a space waffle house.
To be fair, while "truck stop" is a fairly accurate term for DS9 and its location along a major trade route, the primary purpose of Babylon 5 was really just being a neutral location for political relations and whatnot. Though maybe there are important meetings that are conducted at Waffle House, idk
last best hope for peace was a truck stop
Picture I found of Babylon-5:
Tbf their first attempt resulted in the near extinction of humanity...
Ds9 was a truck stop, the babylon stations were UN convention centres with bazaars did you even watch the show
space waffle house
Stop everything else, this is the show I want. Let's see a strung out avian fist fighting a drunk grey across the counter, while a little green man twerks in the background.
You had me at "20th century understanding on how eye contact works in a video call".
That is something that has bugged me since I started watching sci-fi (yes, I am relatively new to the genre), and I don't think I have ever seen anybody talk about it.
One of the wonderful little details from B5 was the holographic recording Londo made for [REDACTED] where he's making his grand speech about how and why he's having him [REDACTED]. The recording is constantly looking in the wrong direction, pointing accusingly at the wall, moving through people, and just obviously not lining up with the room it's being played in because it's just a recording.
Then the gospel choir kicks in and the episode officially becomes my all time favorite.
An account created three months ago, named after a Babylon 5 character, and your very first comment is under this post about Babylon 5. Checks out.
You know what? You convinced me, I'll give it a try.
The first season is pretty bad, but necessary to set up the various arcs.
Season 4 crammed the final two major plot arcs into it because they thought they were getting cancelled. But then they didn’t. Season 5 is almost entirely filler.
In fact, once you finish Season 4, I’d recommend jumping right to the series finale (last episode of S5) and watching that. Then watch Season 5 from the beginning and think of it as a spin-off show that didn’t go anywhere.
This was how I went through my last rewatch of the series a few years ago and it was perfect.
You know the episode of DS9 where Sisko and Garrick commit war crimes?
It's like that episode, the show.
Only scifi show I can think of to present peace negotiations with the same degree of dramatic tension as they give to the rest of the war.
It took me a while, so I'll tell you it starts to pick up steam halfway through first season and hooks you before the first season finale.
goofy hairstyles
Look how they massacred my boy Londo.
First real character I remember in sci-fi. He's a highfalutin blowhard from a noble house, who's fucking broke and has to lose two of his wives.
Then he picks the one that treats him the worst because she lies the least.
Then he goes on to sell his soul to make his planet great again which of course if goes all monkey paw on him.
The dude is a walking pile of contradictions. There's nobody like him in star trek sadly.
The way he gained a soul the hard way just to trade it, fucking amazing journey
S4 is a really interesting watch given the current political climate in the US. I just embarked on a re-watch this month. Agree G’kar and Londo scenes were great. My favorite duo in the show.
Familiar Faces
G'Kar and Tomalak
General Gauge and Admiral Layton/V'Las
Captain Braxton and Major Ryan
Don't forget Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer and Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer
Brad Dourif as a creepy murderer
I did not grab the character names when I had made this chart, but here is a list of Babylon 5 actors who appeared in Star Trek. Data sourced from IMDb
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Actor | Star Trek 1 | Star Trek 2 | Star Trek 3 | Star Trek 4 | Star Trek 5 |
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Majel Barrett | Star Trek | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager |
Eric Pierpoint | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |
John Fleck | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |
Thomas Kopache | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |
Vaughn Armstrong | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |
John Vickery | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||
Michael Ansara | Star Trek | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Phil Morris | Star Trek | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Christopher Darga | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Jeffrey Combs | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
John Schuck | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Aric Rogokos | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Picard | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Patricia Tallman | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Ron Canada | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Glenn Morshower | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | ||
Bruce Gray | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | |||
Erick Avari | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | |||
Robert Foxworth | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Enterprise | |||
Walter Koenig | Star Trek | Star Trek: Picard | |||
Malachi Throne | Star Trek | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Julie Caitlin Brown | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Katherine Moffat | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Roy Brocksmith | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Tricia O'Neil | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Andreas Katsulas | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Brian Cousins | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Mark Rolston | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: The Next Generation | |||
Gerrit Graham | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
J. Patrick McCormack | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Jeff Austin | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Leigh McCloskey | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Marshall R. Teague | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Patrick Kilpatrick | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Bill Blair | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Christopher Neame | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
James Parks | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Keith Szarabajka | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Louis Ortiz | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Nathan Anderson | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Tucker Smallwood | Star Trek: Enterprise | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Carel Struycken | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Carolyn Seymour | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Dwight Schultz | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Henry Darrow | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Josh Clark | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Judson Scott | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
William Morgan Sheppard | Star Trek: The Next Generation | Star Trek: Voyager | |||
Jeff Corey | Star Trek | ||||
Victor Lundin | Star Trek | ||||
Adrienne Barbeau | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Art Chudabala | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Bennet Guillory | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Bernie Casey | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Bill Mumy | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Blair Valk | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Christopher Michael | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Clayton Landey | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Harry Hutchinson | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Jack Kehler | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
James Black | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Julia Nickson | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Juliana Donald | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Kitty Swink | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Mary Kay Adams | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Mike Genovese | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Rosie Malek-Yonan | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Stephen Macht | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Tony Rizzoli | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Tracy Scoggins | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
William Dennis Hunt | Star Trek: Deep Space Nine | ||||
Donovan Brown | Star Trek: Discovery | ||||
Brian Freifield | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
David A. Kimball | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Diane DiLascio | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Geoff Meed | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Guy Siner | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Jane Carr | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Kate McNeil | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Kris Iyer | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Mark Ginther | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Robert Rusler | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Steven Lambert | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Vince Deadrick Jr. | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Warren Tabata | Star Trek: Enterprise | ||||
Merrin Dungey | Star Trek: Picard | ||||
Tamlyn Tomita | Star Trek: Picard | ||||
Beth Toussaint | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Clive Revill | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
David L. Crowley | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
David Sage | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
David Warner | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Jim Norton | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
John Christian Graas | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
John Snyder | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Katy Boyer | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Ken Jenkins | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Lenore Kasdorf | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Marie Marshall | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Mark Bramhall | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Michelan Sisti | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Paul Winfield | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Reiner Schöne | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Robin Curtis | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Stephen Lee | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Theodore Bikel | Star Trek: The Next Generation | ||||
Andray Johnson | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Anthony Crivello | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Anthony De Longis | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Beverly Leech | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Bill Miller | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Brad Dourif | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Bruce McGill | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Christopher Curry | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Daunette Saunders | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
David Anthony Marshall | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Don McMillan | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Ed Trotta | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Eric Steinberg | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Grace Harrell | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Greg Poland | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Ian Abercrombie | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Jean-Luc Martin | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Jim Portnoy | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Joey Sakata | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Joyce Lasley | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Justin Williams | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Kerry Hoyt | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Lou Slaughter | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Marie Chambers | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Marjorie Monaghan | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Marva Hicks | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Mel Winkler | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Michael Bailey Smith | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Michael Kagan | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Michael N. Fujimoto | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Mirron E. Willis | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Musetta Vander | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Pablo Espinosa | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Paul Williams | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Peter Wick | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Richard Chaves | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Robin Sachs | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Russ Fega | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Sam Alejan | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Simon Billig | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Susie Stillwell | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
Tami Peterson | Star Trek: Voyager | ||||
That listing was just off the top of my head. Though the funnier connection is Hague (Robert Foxworth) "died" in B5 because his agent double booked him on DS9 as Layton so they brought in Ryan (Bruce McGill). There is even a funny outtake where McGill references it. Even funnier is the producers intended to get Everett McGill but got names mixed up and got Bruce instead
I have always wanted to like b5, I have tried to watch it multiple times over the years. I get 3 or 4 episodes into it and lose interest. Maybe it is time to try it out again
It definitely blends action, drama, politics, and philosophy like Stat Trek does, but leans far more into drama/politics. I can understand why one might lose interest early on.