AntiTrumpAlliance

The dirty truth is that the Real Social Consequences of supporting fascism have, historically, been the full throated support of US business, media, and military.

Germany was the exception, not the rule. Spain, Chile, the Philippines, South Vietnam, Israel, Apartheid South Africa, Bolsanaro's Brazil, Modi's India, Trump's America... That's the rule.

If you think back before that, weren't those the most self-centered and selfish ones?

I remember a situation with a friend of mine from back in my Uni days (not a case of him turning out to be a Trumpist but a case of him having drifted away from his family, rather than "facing it like a man" he just kept deceiving them and living a double life until things inevitably blew up) and looking back from my by then far more mature and adult point of view than when he and I became friends I could spot how he was always the guy who put himself ahead of the rest of the group.

I get the impression that Trumpists are those who are a mix of being the most "what's in it for me" types (to the point of putting the satisfaction of petty and even mean personal psychological wants ahead of other people's actual lives) and useful idiot, and those would have a track record of putting themselves first even in situations were one wouldn't act like that with friends.

one of the people i know, love watching UFC, joe roegan, naturally he became a trump-lite person overtime, even starting to wear on me that is showing signs of being anti-vaxers.i notice these new trumpers are often pretty ignorant of the news in general, like they dont actually go look up his policies and what they will do. and supporting people like YE despite what he has become is all pretty clear.

That seems to be his superpower. He is so blatantly and unashamedly despicable that he emboldens every asshole on Earth to stop holding back on their assholery, but instead flaunt it like never before.

"If he can do it, why shouldn't I do it as well?"

COVID broke people's brains too. don't know about your timeline but in my opinion while some people started showing their true colors, some people actually changed during that time.

They don’t see it as fascism. They just see that their “team” is “winning”, and the “other” people are losing. That’s all life is to them, winning over everyone else, even when it goes against self preservation.

I own a business, and I wouldn’t hire someone who is openly MAGA.

I work in the O&G industry. Quite a few of the rank and file office folks are vanilla liberals. The senior execs are all Christian MAGA.

Silicon Valley has the same problem. The professional working class is liberal, while the senior sex pest corporate ice chewers are all in the same insane Scientology cults and Mormon tabernacle choirs and Longtermist Transhuman Collectives.

I've seen the same dynamic in health care, professional sports, Big Law, finance, heavy industry...

Great that you managed to break into the club as a Normal. But I don't see a future where I'm sitting on the board of a Fortune 500 corporation. A notable reason why is that I'm not working my way up the chain at Opus Dei.

I will tolerate anyone but the intolerant

Nah, way earlier than 2024. In fact ever since the "grab them by the pussy" tape was released before the election in 2016, these miserable bastards knew what he was about and still chose to support him. No decency to be found among them from that point on.

the tricky thing has been sorting real fascists from those just so grossly misinformed by the propaganda network that they're basically decent but brainwashed.

Unfortunately, we are at a point in human history where there is no functional distinction between smart fascists and stupid fascists. The end result is still propagation of unbridled evil and it cannot be tolerated regardless of the origin.

it's like returning the shopping cart: you don't have to punch nazis, but if you don't do it you're a bit of a dick