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American science will suffer. But you don't care for science in the US, anyway, so most people won't even notice the loss.

“I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of American is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance” ― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark(1995)

Idiocracy had their time predictions wrong, it's already nearly there.

There's no way I'd send my kids to Harvard or MIT (or Stanford, Caltech, Yale, Princeton, etc. etc.) if I were a foreigner. Shit, I am an American and I think I'd probably prefer to send my kids to McGill at this point. I hope my outlook changes. And I write this as someone who has walked the halls of two of those prestigious universities.

It's part of the plan. If you can't win over the more left-leaning academia, you can always just get rid of it. Worked out for both Hungary and Russia.

"in danger"

Why is it that all these articles seem to be written in the past?

Brain drain? They're flushing them!

Unironically I would be literally thrilled to contribute to this brain drain. I'd drop everything and get on a plane right this very second for a chance to do a PhD in literally any other country.

If anyone is looking to fill a electrical engineering PhD position literally anywhere but America then I'm ya boy.

I think at this point, the danger has crystallized pretty thoroughly. Even if you somehow stopped everything that was currently happening, I don’t really know why anybody would want to come here anymore for university. Getting a degree is already stressful enough without having to worry about whether or not the institution will legally be allowed to keep you enrolled for the entire duration of your program.

Of course. We have people in government who don't believe in germ theory. Education is extremely expensive, and if you don't pick a "Good" major, not only are you in debt, but shamed and mocked for it, since no one "forced" you to go. Jobs that require these degrees, even doctors, are not paying enough for people to live, study, and afford food. Why would you stay?

College educated skilled worker. I already left. I'm not looking back. Thanks Trump for making me realize how much the US was holding me back

Unless you're a true sociopath ready to take advantage of the situation, past a certain threshold of intelligence and knowledge being surrounded by MAGAmericans and propaganda aimed at them, and knowing your country can only get worse, must feel like torture.

I am not going to miss the "pax" Americana, but it's sad seeing this and knowing that the world's total rate of scientific advancement will go down considerably for at least a decade.