Funnily, both starred Ben Mendelsohn.
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So what we know is that when Ben Mendelsohn plays the villain, it's a success!
So what we know is that when Ben Mendelsohn plays the villain, it's a success!
Freaky Tales doesn't buckle that trend either. He's a great villain!
For someone totally out of the loop, what does this mean?
It means Andor was excellent and Secret Invasion was hot garbage.
It really could have been another Andor, too. On paper. A completely different story from the dead horses they keep beating, with low-power characters in high-stakes situations, overcoming political and personal obstacles without superpowers or deus ex machina technology, giving us a taste of what it's like to be a normal human trying to do what's right in a universe full of space wizards and galactic threats...
Instead, garbage. Hot, hot, garbage.
Just to expand on the concept, Andor was a quality show that demonstrated the IP still has life. It is compelling and well-made, bringing viewers to Star Wars at a time when most enthusiasts are tired of terrible movies.
There are many parallels between Star Wars and the MCU.
that demonstrated the IP still has life
By making a completely out of the norm series, focused on a side character from an non-main movie, and not using anything that identifies the universe.
It demonstrated that even Disney can make something good once in a while, but it didn't do anything to the Star Wars IP.
and not using anything that identifies the universe.
Well, to be fair, it does have stormtroopers and they do say "may the force be with you" to each other.
Besides the Death Star, storm troopers, and blasters?
Through no fault of Tony Gilroy's, Andor's last few episodes got GoT'd. So much of the story had to be compressed, a bunch of scenes got inserted almost randomly in post production. The narrative fell apart. That final episode was shot with the change in Gilroy's back pocket.
Really spoiled what had been up until that point some of the best Star Wars material produced to date.
I'm less likely to tune into a new Star Wars series after watching Disney dismantle another hit in mid-Production now than I was when the first episode aired. So, I guess, in that sense it has something in common with Secret Invasion.
I mean they did have to accelerate to Rogue One in the number of episodes they were given.
The last episodes were done very well in my opinion. It covered the rest of how much tyranny harms itself and creates the links necessary for Rogue One and a New Hope.
So wait, is Andor still worth a watch? If the ending is broken like you describe, is it still satisfying to watch until the end?
Very much so. It's the most gritty Star Wars since Rogue One (unsurprisingly since it's the same story).
I went back to watching the Mandalorian after finishing Andor and it isn't as good in comparison, it's too Disneyfied (I maintain that the show was created for the express purpose of selling Baby Yoda merch).
The first season of Andor is some of the best TV I have ever watched. Its incredibly well done.
The second season is still good, just not great. Apparently there were originally supposed to be 5 seasons, and it kind of shows that they compacted it all into two. The highs of season 2 are on par with season 1, but its just not as consistently excellent.
The ending isn't a grand finale, but it can't be. The grand finale is Rogue One. I didn't have a problem with it because I always had RO in mind as the last, extra long episode.
1000% still worth a watch. Easily the best Star Wars content to have come out in the Disney era by a mile.
I’ll give an opinion as someone halfway through season 2 and hasn’t seen the episodes the guy you are responding to is describing: absolutely worth watching. Even if second half of season 2 is bad like he says, I feel like I’ve enjoyed what I’ve seen enough that it’s worth it.
For the record I have disliked every single Disney SW tv offering before this
The show is in the form of 4 3-episode arcs per season. So there's a lot of good show to enjoy. Just don't expect it to stick the landing.
Like, by s02e10, I was convinced I'd be throwing on Rogue One right after. And then I got to end and was not feeling it.
what is "GoT'd"?
Game of Thrones'd
Although, in that case Warner Bros had handed D&D a black check and they'd just failed to cash it.
I don't think it's anywhere near that bad to be honest.
Game of Thrones'd.
Aged like raw sewage.