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As an aside, I've seen this happen elsewhere as well. Classic play for wage theft. When I was working as a bartender in London to make ends meet, I had a coworker from Mexico on an expired visa. Great guy and the most hardworking. Well won't you guess it, guy got picked up by immigration authority on payday.

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[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 121 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

So the manager/owner also got arrested or fined for employing illegal immigrants right?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 93 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ha! Ha ha! As an extra aside, I got fired from that job for "talking back" to that boss.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Some people take respect to mean treating other people as equals. Other people treat respect as an excuse to exploit people, like they should be treated as superiors.

I believe the quote went something like, "If you don't treat me with respect, then you don't deserve respect," meaning, "If you don't treat me as an authority, I won't treat you as human."

As always, the more a person wants power, the less that person deserves it.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

More likely to get a payout for reporting

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[–] SARGE@startrek.website 71 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Manager better be locking his door, replacing windows with walls, and getting armed security that goes with the everywhere.

If my manager pulled this shit, the manager would no longer have a home or vehicle by the following morning. Whether they get caught inside the house doesn't matter.

Anyone who destroys someone's life over ~~obvious insecurities~~ "an argument" deserves to have their own life destroyed.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Right, but Americans don’t actually do what you’re suggesting. They just sit there and take it because they’re terrified of losing their shitty jobs that they hate.

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If we're gonna crack down on illegal immigrant labor, we should start with the people who knowingly employ them. Who's crime is greater, the person who came to this country to seek a better life by the sweat of their brow, or the employer who hired them because they knew they could pay them less and otherwise extort and coerce their labor? Ask me the former is barley, if at all, a crime. Whereas the latter is deserving of a criminal investigation and sentence.

Fucking embarrassing....

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This is the same in UK. There are people who believe that illegal immigration is the reason rents are high and jobs are hard to get and also they're all on benefits. It's illegal to rent to or employ an illegal immigrant and I'm not sure how they are supposed to apply for benefits as an illegal immigrant but the narrative persists. Legal immigrants here have zero access to any benefits at all.

But, obviously it is all their fault and not those illegally employing and housing them.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's just an excuse to be openly racist.

I'm constantly surprised as I wander thro my middle England life with the people who have had a privileged existence yet still hold ignorant views on immigration.

How about we acknowledge why this historically angry little island of ours has so much immigration and that each decade's wave of influx has positively contributed to our society

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[–] disgrunty@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago

Legal immigrants can claim benefits depending on their immigration status and whether they've been granted recourse to public funds; but the majority work their backsides off.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

The point of the system is what it does. None of this is happening by chance or due to one or two bad actors

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the wealthy couldn't keep us under control by threatening homelessness, starvation and loss of healthcare - now they have to threaten to fucking deport us if we don't bend the knee to their miniature dictatorships.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago
[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So everyone quit? Right? Document and undocumented?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago
[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Hard to strike/quit in protest when you live paycheck to paycheck and unions have been demolished over the span of the past 60-ish years.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hard to turn up to work when you might be sent away by doing so. I wouldn't leave until my next job was lined up or there was a union. It doesn't need to be a self damaging act to be a retaliatory act.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You also might be sent away by not showing up for work if the boss feels like sending ICE to your home.

Can we just call this what it is? Terrorism.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or indentured servitude. Also known as slavery.

Indentured servitude has a specific definition to mean working without pay under a contract.

Don't get me wrong, this is still slavery, but we are all literal slaves to our wages in a capitalist system.

What this post is describing can better be defined as terrorism, which is the use of or threat of violence for a political or religious reason.

Since it's a combination, maybe we can come up with a new term for it, like "slave terrorism" or something.

[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago

Start calling ICE on Trump supporters.

If that manager gets murdered behind the warehouse, that’s just karma.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

This is specifically why historically reporting your exploitation has been a path to citizenship for illegal/legal immigrants in the united states. It wasn't a well known endeavor though , and I doubt it's functioning has continued

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fail to see how this is different to how when people called the Gestapo when they didn't like their neighbours.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

Or called them witches

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And why didn't anyone report that company for employing illegal immigrants?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

Would probably be far more effective. Punish the employer for not taking reasonable checks. Are they paying tax correctly?

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 8 points 2 months ago

That would be bad for the company, but likely way worse for the illegal immigrants. Being illegaly exploited doesn't make them legal, so reporting the company to the IRS almost definitely gets the workers deported.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

I've always found it strange that it's considered illegal to work here as a non-citizen but the punishment always falls on the guy doing the work, not the guy who hired him instead of someone legal.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

This is chilling and disgusting

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The more I've lived to see the way things go, the more I've come around to the idea that maybe the commies were on to something. Maybe struggle sessions were the least some people deserve.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, you are in an anarchist comm ;)

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago

It seems many newcommers are not aware of this blatant fact. It outstands me when they think being bourgeoisie friendly is tolerated in this network.

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hope what goes around comes back around on that manager ten fold. Hope that cunt gets doxxed

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not doubting the events of that London story, but under UK law knowingly employing illegal workers is an unlimited fine plus 5 years jail time, and even employing one by mistake after not doing the correct checks is up to a £60,000 fine, so it was deliberate than it was quite a gamble…

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't tell you. This is almost 20 years ago now and I know my colleague disappeared from one day to the next after payday.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Ah right, the rules changed about 10 years ago.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 7 points 2 months ago

You gotta keep that reserve army of labor in line

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

It's crazy. Growing up I was shown so many images of so many people arriving by the boat load at Ellis Island and taught how America is a melting pot and how that's a good thing and our strength.

[–] Ptsf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I believe this opens him up to a civil suit, even if the government won't pursue.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Ain't gonna work in Maggie's farm no more ...

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