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    Back in January Microsoft encrypted all my hard drives without saying anything. I was playing around with a dual boot yesterday and somehow aggravated Secureboot. So my C: panicked and required a 40 character key to unlock.

    Your key is backed up to the Microsoft account associated with your install. Which is considerate to the hackers. (and saved me from a re-install) But if you've got an unactivated copy, local account, or don't know your M$ account credentials, your boned.

    Control Panel > System Security > Bitlocker Encryption.

    BTW, I was aware that M$ was doing this and even made fun of the effected users. Karma.

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    [–] [email protected] 214 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    They also do spyware. They just renamed it "AI."

    [–] [email protected] 88 points 1 week ago (4 children)
    [–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Rectal is what it's called I believe?

    Microsoft Rectal

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Can you remind me what that "recall" is?

    [–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    It logs literally everything you do with screenshots, then sends it to M$ despite their assurances that it would be local only.

    Super invasive!

    [–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago

    Thanks, it was hard to recall

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    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Did they change it from "telemetry" to AI now?

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    Unless the "telemetry" has been removed, shouldnt there be "added extra" instead of "renamed"?

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    [–] [email protected] 150 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Holy shit, they automatically activate it on computers without an account to back the key up to?

    That's just malicious

    [–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    IIRC, they only do this if you're logged in with a Microsoft account.

    Bitlocker is disabled by default if you only use local accounts

    [–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I've occasionally seen it activate itself on computers with only a local account, though I've so far only seen it when upgrading in place to 11 with secure boot enabled in the BIOS, and not every time. Fortunately the one time it locked me out was on a freshly cloned drive, so it only cost me redoing the work.

    Also, the number of people who I've seen lose all their data because they don't even know they created an MS account during OOBE, and later had a boot or BIOS hiccup, is too damn high!

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I have (had ;'( ) a local account, and bitlocker was activated. I only found out when my motherboard bit the dust, and that triggered the no-TPM bitlocker thingamajig. Goodbye data.

    Of course it hits right as I needed the data on that laptop. Fucking murphy and his fancy legal words.

    If anyone is in a situation like mine, you might find luck with a little DIY hacking: https://www.techspot.com/news/106166-old-bitlocker-vulnerability-exploited-bypass-encryption-updated-windows.html

    [–] [email protected] 131 points 1 week ago (6 children)
    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

    πŸ€” shit... you right

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    [–] [email protected] 92 points 1 week ago (31 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    When the public rejected this idea

    THIS is their response. They are still insisting on total control of our computers.

    [–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (19 children)

    They desperately wanted to eliminate personal computers and replace them with dumb terminals running over the net.

    I don't know about that.

    Dumb terminal concept was more what Chromebook was doing.

    Microsoft is doing something even stupider.

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    [–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Just checked my wife's laptop. Local account, secure boot off, windows 10. It had a message telling me to setup a microsoft account to 'finish encrypting the device'. I clicked turn off, and it's currently decrypting the hard drive. Blech.

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    [–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Meanwhile in Linux with luls, which I've had since a pre-pre-pre version somewhere back in the early 2000's, I can have multiple keys, all works like sunshine, never had problems.

    On windows... So we work with highly sensitive data, and ever since I came in I thought it insane that people working remote don't have that highly sensitive data encrypted. We can't switch Linux yet, so okay, we go for BitLocker.

    Boy oh boy oh boy was that a mistake.

    50 remote users, 5 get encrypted devices with BitLocker as a trial and within a month, 3 of them already got locked up permanently because apparently it'll pwrma lock itself after x amounts of invalid passwords which is just incredibly stupid. But don't worry, there is a backup key! Yeah, that is lie 48 characters that we'd had to pass by phone and they have to type it flawlessly.

    Suffice to say, the remote users will be running Linux soon, like it or not.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Yeah, that is lie 48 characters that we'd had to pass by phone and they have to type it flawlessly.

    Wouldn't be so bad if everyone knew their Alpha Bravo Charlies

    My one talent: alpha bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot golf hotel India Juliet kilo Lima mike November Oscar papa Quebec Romeo Sierra tango uniform Victor whiskey x-ray Yankee Zulu, typed using voice to text

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    [–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Not that it helps now, but you can also dump your bitlocker recovery key through powershell and save it independently.

    (Get-BitLockerVolume -MountPoint "C").KeyProtector

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The control panel dialogue allows you to do this as well. Control Panel > system security > Bitlocker encryption. But it also has the superior option which is to turn it off.

    I didn't loose any data BTW. I had my M$ account info, and a backup besides.

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    But it also has the superior option which is to turn it off.

    Why would you not want to encrypt your files? My Linux systems are encrypted too.

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    I've actually had this occur before to a machine I specifically disabled the tpm on so that it wouldn't happen (it was an account less frozen kiosk). I was fuming the entire time I spent rebuilding it.

    [–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

    Windows is the virus.

    [–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I just installed Manjaro on my daily driver over the weekend. My entire steam library just works. My dev tools all work(better) on Linux, and free office is nice and familiar. Fuck widows.

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

    This happened to me once and I had to redo my coursework over the weekend...now I use Fedora :D

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Thank you for the word of warning. Does this affect Windows 10 as well?

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Does this affect Windows 10 as well

    IDK. 10 has bitlocker, so I'd check.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    Bit late to this thread but I know a few commands that might help if you're stuck:

    manage-bde -off C: (or any other drive) This decrypts the volume and turns off bitlocker

    manage-bde -lock/unlock

    manage-bde -protectors -get C: (or any other drive) This displays your 48-digit key. I suggest you store it somewhere, just to be safe.

    Get-BitlockerVolume reveals which of your partitions are encrypted with Bitlocker.

    Disclaimer: I am not a terminal nerd, I just had similar problems years ago and went down the rabbit hole, used these commands and turned off bitlocker permanently. I don't use windows anymore, but when I did, it didn't cause any problems with bitlocker after this. If you're concerned about your un-encrypted hard drives, consider using Veracrypt (carefully!) or similar open source encryption software.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Fuck Microsoft.

    I remember back in highschool a buddy encrypted his harddrive, didn't backup his key. He Lost ALOT when I upgraded his comp

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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Why cant windows copy luks and let you choose your own password

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    because people will set hunter2 and be done with it.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    How did you get my password?

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    I can't even adjust bitlocker settings on my laptop's windows 11 home Installation...

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I just leave secure boot/bitlocker off when it comes to my home system. It wasnt something I "needed" when I was dual booting windows 10 and it's not something I'm gonna enable now that I'm using 11.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    It’s not ”leaving bitlocker off”, though. It’s ”be aware about it and turn bitlocker off manually” since it’s enabled by default in the latest updates.

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