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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Amazing how quickly they pivoted from "Trump will bring down the price of groceries" to "It's better if things get more expensive," and his cultists just ate it up.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s because they have a very simple problem: they are inconsistent on their messaging on tariffs

Depending on who you talk to, it does one of two things and it can’t be both by definition: either they are a negotiating tactic to squeeze better deals out of nations that they (incorrectly) believe are taking advantage of us, OR it’s the new way of doing things because they want to stop globalism and make America self-sufficient (can’t put the genie back in the bottle but won’t stop them from trying).

Everyone in his admin/surrogate/etc. has a slightly different answer hinging on one of those two contradictory explanations.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Three actually. The admin has also consistently claimed that they're a new source of revenue that will offset tax cuts (in some versions this removes income taxes entirely).

And yes, as you said (and I've made this point more than a few times on here myself), each version of what the tariffs do is mutually exclusive with the others. If they're a bargaining tactic, they cannot be a source of revenue or a permanent change to manufacturing, because a bargaining tactic requires the offer of the tariffs being removed. Even if they're not actually a bargaining tactic and are in fact intended to be permanent, they can't be both a source of revenue and a way to rebuild American manufacturing. For the tariffs to be a source of revenue, imports have to continue at their existing levels. If manufacturing repatriates, the revenue disappears.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Very good point, though I kind of tied that up with “we’re making America self-sufficient.“ but you’re right it could be seen as a 3rd one

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Also, high prices are cool, but it's also because Biden left them such a terrible economy.

Very Orwellian. Never mind the objective data we could all see with our eyes about the fantastic economy Biden had. We could all see people complaining about high prices of eggs and the bitching they did about inflation. But nevermind all that, none of that is true because of what Pee-Wee here says.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

With what money?

They're destroying the American consumer class, people won't be able to buy shit, and Americans hate not being able to buy shit

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

And when MAGA Americans are angry, they double down on their support for the people that made them suffer.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I don't get is how capitalism itself is supposed to survive. No consumer spending means companies don't make sales and then assets don't generate enough value to justify already very expensive law enforcing cost to protect it, which would go up if every day a truck pulled into Walmart just like Black Friday

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm reading into this too much, but I think they picked dolls on purpose. Not just because of the phrase "China Doll", but also to play into their alpha male bullshit. They are intentionally feminizing the opposition to keep the manosphere engaged.

[–] Parsizzle@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

That's an interesting point. When I first read the quote from Trump about 2 dolls instead of 30, I thought he was just out of touch - I mean are dolls still a popular thing in today's day and age? Is he just out of touch?

But no, there's a reason for the usage of the term. Quite an interesting point, especially considering the demographic that largely voted for him this second election was younger men.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Alt headline "Steven Miller wants YOU to buy dolls"

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

WTF is with these dumb bitches and fucking doll quotes? Do they have a secret Nazi dollhouse they play with?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"Show me on this doll where Der Gropenführer touched you...."

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago


Stephen Miller talking about dolls probably opened a door to hell somewhere.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out with broke ass Americans.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pee-wee Goebbels is here to tell everyone what they really believe, LOL.

Doesn't matter what people really believe or what people said they believed yesterday - high prices are cool, because it will please their lord the god-emperor King Mierdas.

[–] LarryLurkman@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Stephen Miller looks like he has a creepy ass collection of naked dolls in the attic.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well, a company tried that:

https://afina.com/blogs/news/made-in-usa

TL;DR:

No, they're not.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't want to hear anything Stephen Miller has to say unless it's an apology for being Stephen Miller.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And unless that apology sounds like a self inflicted shot to the head I don't wanna hear that shit either.

[–] Tower@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Hey man, nice shot.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stephen Miller looks like a dude who definitely wears leather heels and a ball gag at home.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, he looks like he wishes he had the courage to do that.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I can’t wait until this Nasfaratu nazi goes back to his crypt

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

Excuse me, I'm not for sale

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Cam we just shove a pole up his ass and make a stick rag doll out of him?

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

politicians telling the people what they want is not the way this is supposed to work.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Onky if the price is higher due to regulations on child labor and non-toxic materials and manufacturing processes. Oh, wait, they want to roll all of that back to the 50s, too!

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 1 year ago

does anybody fucking care about the us making dolls or any other toys.

[–] tensor_nightly69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

God, he's ugly.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I bet he'll be very willing to pay Americans a lot of money for the privilege of staying alive. In fact, I bet he'd give it all away to avoid being at the business end of an American guillotine. (It's a regular guillotine, but the blade is replaced with a 60lb rock, and the person on the business end has their head placed in a stockade, resting on an anvil)

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I hate this bloke I've not read the article I don't know fuck all about him really I'm not even American but he looks a fucking cunt look at him you can see it all over his cunt face blokes a fuxking cunt