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If Sisko can be a Captain, Harry can at least be a Lieutenant Commander (reddthat.com)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly what is the point of a promotion when you are stuck on a ship 70 years from home and money no longer matters anyway?

He's not going to get paid more because there is no pay and hes not going to get a significantly different position on the ship because the talent pool is limited to the ship itself. so the "promotion" would just be performative anyway.

Once they return to earth there would be some tangible benefits which is convenient because then he DID get a promotion to Lieutenant and took over as chief of security and tactical officer. Eventually he was promoted to Commander at star base 11

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Those who've seen lower decks should know why this is not a good idea!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Best we can do is "Sr. Ensign in Charge of the Other Ensigns"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Acting interim Sr. in Charge of other Ensigns

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Until he got demoted again and became able to be bossed around by all of the other ensigns.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

He can sit on the council, but…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Actually, according to an okudagram in PRO, he is at least a full Lieutenant by 2384 in the prime timeline.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure he's Captain Kim in STO, and I think that was true before they decided that STO was a different timeline.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never played STO, is it still online?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yep, and it's worth it to go through the stories free to play

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Awesome! I'll install it on my PC today. Any suggestions you might have for a newbie?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Save all your limited currency, (not the credits) for end game. It's pretty simple if you're familiar with MMOs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Smart thinking, any server suggestions or which side to go with?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dunno how many servers there are. There may only be one per continent/ region. I treat the game as a single player game. I just made a character for each faction, federation, Klingon, and romulan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Suppose that makes sense, see all the content. Guess I'll just jump in lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't played in a couple years, but start with Federation side as it has more content geared towards it.

Type of Captain (sci/tac/eng) is your preference as all content can be done as any type.

Don't bother with PVP.

Theres only 2 'servers' to choose from if I remember correctly the main server and a test server.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense, I'll start there. Any suggestion on what type of captain you would suggest? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Tac is probably the easiest to start out with. It's what I run as my main Fed.

Engineer and Science need a bit more effort to use properly.

You can have a decent amount of characters, so there's no issues starting a new character in a different profession to see what it's like. (Also allowing you to have Federation and Klingon Captains.)

Also look for active promo codes. You can get a lot of good stuff with them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

'somebody has to be the ensign'

--rick berman (probably)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

'demotes Paris back to Ensign'

— I need more Ensigns!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

Paris makes Janeway laugh:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Grow a pair and stop being a suck up my man, look at Paris, he was a convicted criminal, in jail and he got promoted demoted and promoted. just think, what would Janeway do? Moan about it or boot that door down and demand your damn promotion.

Stop being a bitch Harry Kim and grab that promotion by the balls.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Spotted the multiverse Lt. Kim.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

That's harry fucking kim to you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Multiverse Kim is evidence of why you don't promote Kims. They turn evil.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

My favorite forever ensign

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But promotions should be earned.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

True, but then we have to account for Prime Kim dying and being replaced by Phase-shift Kim. Per Starfleet protocol, that crewman has to start from the ground up. That process runs roughly 4 years just to make it from cadet to ensign.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I mean, by the next ~~episode~~ day everybody seems to have forgotten that he's from another timeline so there's that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, he should be glad he wasn't demoted to crewman at that point

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do you have that whole episode in 5 second gif pieces?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Are "Phase-shifted crewman" even considered in Starfleet protocol? It's not a "Mirror, Mirror" parallel universe, it's just a light time variance. They should still be considered starfleet graduates, if it's a light phase/time-shift and not a parallel universe... I think?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Jokes aside, I would view this more as a Thomas Riker situation - Voyager was split in two in that moment. Both Kims were the same Kim before the divergence field, so both Kims have the same record before then.

In truth, probably part of Kim being stuck at one rank was probably because of a lack of transfers from Voyager, for obvious reasons - it's practically raining promotions on the Cerritos for instance, and transfer seems relatively frequent in Lower Decks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The fact he never got promoted suggests otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But he came back and was still Ensign?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

You said they should still be considered Starfleet if they're time-shifted. I'm saying protocol accounts for it and once you're time shifted you get frozen in rank. Forever!

I'm just messing with you. I think he never got promoted as a message between the lines to the actor, who at that point was merely saved from show death by appearing in a good looking Asians list or something weird like that. They never promoted Kim as a reflection on Wang's standing with the production team.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No shit. How many times did he die?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

Or kidnapped‽ Harry's a survivor

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t he captain when they make it back to earth in the final episodes?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah but that timeline, admins all it's mistakes, got wiped out