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Skype, the online video-calling service, is shutting down in May after more than two decades of service. For those of a certain generation, Skype changed everything.

Before it launched in 2003, making international calls 📱 was prohibitively expensive and few viable digital alternatives existed. Skype offered users a cheap and easy way to call anyone in the world, skirting the draconian landline industry. When Skype added video calls a few years later, it felt as if the future had arrived: Students used Skype to stay connected to families back home 🤙, international friendships were born 🤝, and a generation of cross-border relationships began ❤️ — or ended 💔 — over the service. By the late 2000s, Skype was so ubiquitous that its name became a verb, much like Xerox and Google. Its bouncy ringtones and audio notifications were iconic. 🎶

At its peak, Skype had about 300 million users around the world. But it was a product of the desktop era, and as users went mobile, Skype lost its edge to upstarts like WhatsApp and FaceTime. Today, the app is forgotten on most phones and computers, particularly in the West. ⏰

The platform still has dedicated pockets of users in countries like Turkey, Russia, India, and the Philippines, according to market intelligence firm Sensor Tower. “Skype has been an integral part of shaping modern communications and supporting countless meaningful moments,” Microsoft said in a blog post announcing its imminent shutdown. 😴

Before Skype goes the way of other early internet icons like AOL Instant Messenger and Friendster, Rest of World readers shared their favorite memories of the service. Here are their stories. 🙇

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

RIP to one more thing a big corporation bought and successfully murdered. Skype before Microsoft was literally amazing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Sad that it is being replaced by the much worse Teams and there isn't much to replace it in the open source world except for Signal, Threema, Wire and maybe Jitsi meet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

None of those (except Jitsi to a small extent) qualify as replacements if we ever want to evolve out of the silos we let megalomaniac CEOs build to better control us. So I'll add to the list: prose.org , movim.eu (or anything based on XMPP) and matrix.org (though this one is rapidly falling into obsolescence). The keyword here is federation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For an average user how good is calling on XMPP and Matrix on any given server? We've only seen matrix.org have successful calling and we've never had success with XMPP calling nor joining groups on it. No idea what prose is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

In terms of tech and implementation details, it's been years since everyone has been converging towards the same WebRTC architecture (with everyone bundling/linking the same set of basic components and libs as found in chrome, android, ...). As such, a call between two participants (or as a group with less than a dozen participants) should be as good on XMPP as anywhere else (including the commercial options like Google Meet, Zoom, Matrix, ...).

spoilerOf course there are caveats like relying on TURN where direct connection is impossible, but that's the gist of it. Regarding XMPP group calls,

Where things start getting spicier is in large group calls (dozens of participants or more) requiring the stream to be brokered by a central server (SFU), with stream re-compression and optimisation. Standard-XMPP isn't great for that yet (non-standard XMPP, like Jitsi, on which it is based, is pretty damn good, but unavailable from your regular XMPP setup). Work is going on to improve that (on two fronts, with some XMPP servers turning into SFUs, and with a protocol being designed for offloading AV streams to any willing existing SFU).

spoilerThe problem with large group calls essentially boils down to how much bandwidth and CPU you want to throw at it, and that's not cheap (unless, of course, you are the product, i.e. Google Meet, Discord & al). The same applies to self-hosted Matrix/Galene/Jitsi: you probably won't want to hold a large conference call on a home-server, and the server admins are bearing some costs, so get to know them and how sustainable that is. In the case of Matrix.org, it is not.

No idea what prose is.

Prose is an open-source XMPP client with a focus on large rooms/banquet-style conversations (like IRC, slack, …). It is still in its early stages but already quite usable and possibly a good fit for a subset of Skype refugees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

BigBlueButton

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is this spam? The first recommendation is for an otherwise paid product that has a 100 user limit on the self-hosted option.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

See my other comment: if you already have an XMPP account, prose is just another client that you can use however you like, for free (and at that point, everyone should be having an XMPP account, if you ask me). If you don't have an account, they can act as service provider (but this being a decentralized network, the don't want to encourage hosting everyone on the same server).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is not spam, and you miss-read it. Prose is an open-source XMPP client. They can set you up (host on your behalf) for free, up to a certain point. You can pay for it (there is a commercial offering), or you can use it unlimited and with no extra costs than your own server's if you self-host. It's all being developed there in the open in case you don't want to take my word for it: https://github.com/prose-im

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm happy to be more formally corrected, but this is from their pricing page.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Just below you'll find a section about "self hosting (soon)", though you can already use it with your own XMPP account as a standalone client (no questions asked), like I do, or, optionally, with the server-side components (opensource prosody module).

Edit: adding https://github.com/prose-im

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Good to see prose moving along.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't see what you're describing 🤷 Soon only appears once on the page and not in this context for me.

I do notice that the product comparison chart lists the same 100 user limit for self-hosted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I don’t see what you’re describing 🤷 Soon only appears once on the page and not in this context for me.

It appears as a tooltip here

Anyhow, where I intended to draw your intention was on https://prose.org/downloads

You can just download the client for your platform (assuming one is available), or use the web one (otherwise), or just build one from the sources I linked (which is what I do), and login with your usual XMPP account. Would you need an account and have to decide which provider to register with, this would come handy: https://providers.xmpp.net/

In this set-up, prose.org isn't hosting your account and will of course let you interact with thousands of users or more, like any other XMPP client.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

None of those can call phone numbers. They're not replacements for Skype.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Whither Jami ?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

I can't believe that Microsoft had almost a monopoly between msn messenger and Skype. Then they slept and let WhatsApp/Facebook take everything (iMessage is not a thing in my country)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Skype is still a very good voice chat app, despite a succession of cluttered and pointless updates. It's clear and clean in sound, and has an excellent gain tuner.

I will use it until the day it dies, and then switch to WhatsApp or something else. It's all shit by comparison, so I'm not too chuffed as to where I go. Yeah, it's all junk.

But with my contacts on Whatsapp, signal, teams, slack, and zoom, this feels so much like the pre-jabber days where pidgin was the only sane app. Now we don't even have that.

This is lame.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can't call regular phone lines with WhatsApp, teams, slack, or zoom. None of those are replacements for sjyoe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Teams, as a business product, does actually offer phone service. It is a special license though and from what I hear people managing it hate it, even though users tend to like it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it require a monthly fee? Does it cost the same as Skype? Skype was like less than ten cents per minute, pay as you go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Oh yes, and it is really only a business feature. It isn't competing with Skype. It is actually hard for me to think of Teams as something non-business users are supposed to use.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I migrated a friend group of skype to matrix/Element. Everything works just as fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am positively surprised, yes. Recently had an 3h call and my friend was in the us and iam in europe. It was flawless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

What servers were you on and what clients were you using?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I used Skype a lot to call landlines from outside the US, but now I need a replacement, do any of you have recommendations? I'm testing Rebtel, but it isn't cutting it for me, it connects like 1 out of 5 times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

XMPP is still here..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Icq was back, last i checked. You may even find your contacts there still, if not messages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

It shut down last year, but it was also run by Mail.ru. Probably not something you want anywhere near your devices

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Interesting, sadly I no longer remember my old number, nor do I have access to the email I used 25+ years ago.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn. I have like a hundred bucks of Skype credit on my account. What happens to that money?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

It was unreliable on my potato computer and with the speeds of back then for me, but I remember that pretty much all of my friends used it. I had to use my mum's computer to join in lol.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Am I the only one who is physically repulsed by this use of emojis?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to the modern internet ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You dropped this \

And like, I understand the use of emojis in general, I'm no boomer, just using them in this way is so weird. Like this usage of emojis feels boomery.

Its like the difference between

My iphone died mid conversation 🫠

And

My iphone 🍎📱 died mid conversation

The latter fills me with rage, the former feels reasonable

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

IdroppedthisbecauseIforgothowMarkdownworksagain 😡

Anyway, I still didn't get used to emojis having different meanings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I'm always reminded of https://youtu.be/ZI0w_pwZY3E for Skype

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Isnt it still the best platform for RT audio calls on shitty Internet?

And how am I supposed to call non-US numbers from my computer now?!?